Dealing with depression - suicidal thoughts - Join the conversation (including helpline details)

fiat 9090

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Alcohol fiddles with a part of the brain that secretes ADH. If you reduce the amount of ADH in your system then your kidneys don't reabsorb as much water so you generate more (dilute) urine. You can go pretty dehydrated as a result.

I don't think humans were ever designed to sit or lie around for very long. When you examine what prehistoric man must have had to do, every day, collect water, firewood, hunt or gather, he would have been pretty active except for when the weather was awful or at night when it got dark and everyone gathered around the fire in some form of shelter. Fire must have nearly been our first kind of developed technology, hence why it must feel so appealing to many of us on a strangely basic level.

Not in the best of places myself at the minute in all honesty, folk who are struggling have my every sympathy.
If you are suffering we are here to listen to you and keep posting those interesting pieces of information because you are helping us in our struggles as well
 
Humans weren’t designed to sit at all. If you look at our kids when they are small they squat or lay they don’t choose to sit. Sitting is a construct that is hard work. Why do you think many office workers are so knackered at the end of the day? It’s not just the mental side of there jobs which is made harder by the lack of stress release which movement brings.
 

Turkish_FR

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Mixed Farmer
Humans weren’t designed to sit at all. If you look at our kids when they are small they squat or lay they don’t choose to sit.

I know this well from my upper flat neighbors, their two little kids are pretty active when they are home. They are not designed to sit and make some homework for sure lol
 

Gong Farmer

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S E Glos
If I'm alone in the living room watching TV or reading (alone, or otherwise it's 'WTF?!!') I do so standing up as much as possible, especially if I've spent the rest of the day sat at a desk or in a car. I keep meaning to investigate those systems where you stand at a desk rather than sit, I reckon I could do that.
 
If I'm alone in the living room watching TV or reading (alone, or otherwise it's 'WTF?!!') I do so standing up as much as possible, especially if I've spent the rest of the day sat at a desk or in a car. I keep meaning to investigate those systems where you stand at a desk rather than sit, I reckon I could do that.
Sounds weird. But we have high and deep window seals that are perfect for a man of 5.11(ish) to use as a standing desk. Which luckily face south making them ideal for a SAD sufferer in January.
 
My wife, along with two of her companions, will be attending an eightieth birthday lunch for one of their friends tomorrow, so I got to slip down town to buy a suitable birthday card today. Having bought two cards, lest one or the other didn't suit, I popped into 'TheWorks' just for a quick brows of their items on sale.

Having decided that there was nothing in particular that would interest me I was on my way out of TheWorks and one of the books on sale caught my eye with it's title.

'Asking For Help' ... an Honest Guide To Depression and Anxiety, From Rock Bottom to Recovery by Kevin Braddock and it had been reduced from £9.99 to £3. After a quick read of the contents and the short description of Kevin's encounter with depression I decided to buy the book and see how Kevin's journey would compare with my own and if the book would contain anything of interest to our selves and our silent readers.
 

Turkish_FR

Member
Mixed Farmer
At the time when I was struggling and battling for recovery from an unbelievably deep and destructive psychological breakdown and drug withdrawal symptoms, I found that making a jobs list for the next day proved to be of great assistance in getting things done.

Making plans and complating the duties is one of the most satisfying things for sure. Nice way to feel nice.
 

Kiwi Pete

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Livestock Farmer
I am amazed at how much it has disturbed me !!
I think it rocks 'us depression sufferers' far more than others, speaking for myself I've considered topping myself a few times and played over what I imagine everyone else would do....
and all the nice things they'd have to say about me....

But it isn't very nice, when you think back it really would have been a selfish thing to do and I'm glad I never went through with it.
I also wish you didn't have to be where you are, at the present point in time, simply horrible what our minds are capable of!
It may be "natural" to think of all the things you could have seen, could've done, could've said..... but try not to.
This simply isn't fair on you, your family or anyone around you, nothing is fair but carrying on without guilty feelings is as close as we have!
 

glow worm

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Location
cornwall
I think it rocks 'us depression sufferers' far more than others, speaking for myself I've considered topping myself a few times and played over what I imagine everyone else would do....
and all the nice things they'd have to say about me....

But it isn't very nice, when you think back it really would have been a selfish thing to do and I'm glad I never went through with it.
I also wish you didn't have to be where you are, at the present point in time, simply horrible what our minds are capable of!
It may be "natural" to think of all the things you could have seen, could've done, could've said..... but try not to.
This simply isn't fair on you, your family or anyone around you, nothing is fair but carrying on without guilty feelings is as close as we have!
my best friend's husband committed suicide many years ago.. totally out of the blue. They had a lunch date booked for the following day. they had just bought some roses to plant in the garden, I have always remembered what she told me afterwards. Although she was absolutely gutted, she said it was the most selfish thing anyone could do. Their pain was over but they left their nearest and dearest with a liftime of feeling pain and guilt and blame. I have read on this forum the benifits of writing down your troubles, even if you dont share what you have written with anyone, and sometimes knowing the 'right' peron to share with is far from easy. It really can be a great release especially in what can be a very lonely job like a lot of us do. Like many other silent readers i suspect, I drop in here every whip and trip, as, unlike many other sites, you don't have to give a name and you are amongst others who share a similar life style. Like others, in the midle of the night, its reasurring there is always a listenig ear out there and sobering that there is always someone more in need of this forums support. Never underestamate the good you all do TFF.
 

Turkish_FR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Sat here staring at space. friend committed suicide yesterday . She was one of those people who you thought had everything in life . Can't understand it . 2 kids left with no mother !

Sorry, suicides usually happen with an instant boredom and lose of control. Dont try to understand because you cant unless you experience the same instant boredom. I was taught in motocycle driving courses that I will always go where I look at, was having problem with narrow turns and my teachers wanted me to look forward, not at the ground. I believe that the same rule goes for life too. We always go where we look at, if we look at the bad things we cant get rid of bad thoughts, we should focus on beautiful things and go for them. This rule is much more important for someone depressed.
 
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glow worm

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cornwall
Sorry, suicides usually happen with an instant boredom and lose of control. Dont try to understand because you cant unless you experience the same instant boredom. I was taught in motocycle driving courses that I will always go where I look at, was having problem with narrow turns and my teachers wanted me to look forward, not at the ground. I believe that the same rule goes for life too. We always go where we look at, if we look at the bad things we cant get rid of bad thoughts, we should focus on beautiful things and go for them. This rule is much more important for someone depressed.
I was told a similar thing when I was having advanced driving lessons donkey years ago. They said I was driving on dipped headlights by looking at the front of the bonnet, rather than full beam .. looking ahead. A relevant saying I've heard is .. Stop looking backwards or you'll fall over what lies ahead.
 

Jameshenry

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Location
Cornwall
Suicide of close friends/family has to be one of the hardest things to take on board and deal with, it is more than two years ago now, that my uncle who was also my best friend commited suicide, although the deep sense of loss and sadness has now eased, it changes your life forever i think, that question of why never goes away though.
But life carries on wether we want it to or not, for me personally it has made me more appreciative of the time i spend with my family and friends,
 

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