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I can't be f**ked to replyWhat total crap
I can't be f**ked to replyWhat total crap
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The richest farmers have farm yards that ARE building sitesWhy’s that then.
If going back to the subject. Just out of curiosity. Would that £100/acre or whatever for s2s contract has to cover contractors expenses on labor, machinery and fuel? Or fuel is covered by landowner?
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Thanks. So then £100/acre would barely kept you going.Fuel, labour & machinery is the contractor's responsibility. Of course there is the opportunity for both parties to agree anything they want but traditionally all operations and their costs are the responsibility of the contractor. I know of one S2S where the farmer kept control of the spraying, fertilising and grain store but everything else went to the contractor.
Thanks. So then £100/acre would barely kept you going.
Management time should be costed at £40/acI'd be losing money at that on operations alone, never mind any management time or profit margin. Not interested in buying work! It would be nice to have a supply of fuel at that farm though.
Management time should be costed at £40/ac
I have a share farming agreement on some spuds. The profit (or loss) is shared by the same proportion as the amount of inputs by each party. eg if one puts 60% in financially, then he gets 60% of the profit (or shoulder 60% of the loss).anyone got an example spreadsheet or otherwise of a cfa agreement or s2s figures share farming agreement etc dont need the figures to be genuine just wondering about finer details what needs to be included etc and profit share. currently just s2s contracting but looking at expanding acers as i see some farms locally becoming available.tia
Stubble to stubble has no profit share.
Otherwise I'd suggest contractor and "farmer" both take the same out for their work and rent (let's not split hairs on the wording) then 50/50 on any surplus.
Just looking at some benchmarking figures for labour and machinery and wondered what i could expect to pay a contractor for a full stubble to stubble operation.
North Yorks, decent field size, medium textured soils, high input / high output set up.
Thanks S
What number of ac ?? Is there a minimum are you farming in blocks any constraints on moisture at combiningWe have recently been given a price list from a good contractor. This is the total cost including fuel.
Ploughing £19/acre
Drilling £21/acre
Power Harrowing £16.50/acre
Rolling £6/acre
Combining and carting with 1 tractor and trailer £39/acre
Spraying flat rate of £3.80/ac for up to 200l/ha (water)
Liquid fert application £4.50/ac flat rate
Granular fert application £5/acre
Heston baling £5/bale
Bale carting tractor and trailer £40/hour
Loader and driver £40/hour
Those are very fair rates to secure a complete farm job. They don't tend to buy brand new equipment but they have multiple numbers of each so for example 3 combines, 4 drills, 4 ploughs, 3 power harrows, 2 sprayers etc so would try to turn up in multiples and blitz the jobs out. There is no profit share or contract farming, just simply a contractor doing the field work jobs. Interestingly they do not run any min till equipment as they have very little interest from customers, but they have just bought a no-till drill as they is being asked for more commonly.
Why would you do your own at that price, or bother messing around with any other system . Nice clean start for £19/acre.Ploughing at £19
Fert spreading at £5
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