Pumping water out of a stream

texelburger · Jan 28, 2020

We have some temporary grass going into spuds in early May and was wondering how easy it would be to set up a drinking trough with a battery powered pump to fill it from a stream.There would also need to be a switch on the ballcock valve to turn the pump off when full.Would this be feasible and easy to set up ?

Hilly · Jan 28, 2020

Go on YouTube search pasture pump.

Al R · Jan 28, 2020

Sheep or cattle? What sort of acreage total and could they not just go in and drink from the stream? Unless 50+ lactating ewes on the area for a long time or in a severe drought I would say put out 10 mineral tubs and bucket the water up to it as and when?

Sharpy · Jan 28, 2020

If you use a wee diaphragm pump like on a quad sprayer (search for sureflow ) they have an inbuilt pressure switch which switches on and off as pressure falls and rises. Simples! Also self priming.

Cjm · Jan 28, 2020

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Something like this?

It was already broken. · Jan 29, 2020

An IBC on pallets would be cheaper. And less likely to get nicked.

texelburger · Jan 29, 2020

Al R said:
Sheep or cattle? What sort of acreage total and could they not just go in and drink from the stream? Unless 50+ lactating ewes on the area for a long time or in a severe drought I would say put out 10 mineral tubs and bucket the water up to it as and when?

Sheep,10 acres of lush grass .Impossible for them to drink from the stream and going to put about 100 ewes on there to get it grazed in time.Steep bank to stream so difficult to bucket.

texelburger · Jan 29, 2020

Thanks for the replies ,we considered a IBC but it's quite a trek to fill it all the time. @Sharpy , @Cjm thanks for your replies,will look into both ideas.

neilo · Jan 29, 2020

texelburger said:
Sheep,10 acres of lush grass .Impossible for them to drink from the stream and going to put about 100 ewes on there to get it grazed in time.Steep bank to stream so difficult to bucket.

Are you putting lactating ewes on there, or dry ones? If the latter, they won’t drink anything anyway (unless you’re giving them lots of dry feed too), so one ibc and a trough would be all you need to keep the FA police happy. If they have lambs at foot, then they’ll need more obviously.

I’d certainly opt to fill an ibc with a portable pump as and when you need to though, rather than leaving anything elaborate/expensive available for pinching.

Netherfield · Jan 29, 2020

Pasture pump no good for sheep according to the makers.

Agrivator · Jan 29, 2020

Sharpy said:
If you use a wee diaphragm pump like on a quad sprayer (search for sureflow ) they have an inbuilt pressure switch which switches on and off as pressure falls and rises. Simples! Also self priming.

But how do you keep the inlet pipe full, particularly if there is steepish lift from the source. A U-bend near the pump inlet? which the pump draws on and creates a slight vacuum to help the inlet flow.

Sharpy · Jan 29, 2020

Agrivator said:
But how do you keep the inlet pipe full, particularly if there is steepish lift from the source. A U-bend near the pump inlet? which the pump draws on and creates a slight vacuum to help the inlet flow.

Put the pump reasonably low down, even floating I suppose if a one way valve doesn't work. But this assumes that the pipe will drain, which it probably won't.

texelburger · Jan 29, 2020

neilo said:
Are you putting lactating ewes on there, or dry ones? If the latter, they won’t drink anything anyway (unless you’re giving them lots of dry feed too), so one ibc and a trough would be all you need to keep the FA police happy. If they have lambs at foot, then they’ll need more obviously.

I’d certainly opt to fill an ibc with a portable pump as and when you need to though, rather than leaving anything elaborate/expensive available for pinching.

Ewes and lambs,so lactating, and a little dry food.Might be worth having a look at a portable pump and just top up the trough(or IBC) when needed.

neilo · Jan 29, 2020

texelburger said:
Ewes and lambs,so lactating, and a little dry food.Might be worth having a look at a portable pump and just top up the trough(or IBC) when needed.

I’d rather buy a small portable pump that will likely come in handy another day, rather than something that can wander.

steveR · Jan 29, 2020

Filling an IBC with a 12v pump will do your head quickly.... or should I say, VERY slowly!

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Is a better bet. Or even better, a pump out of Aldi or Lidl with 3 yr warranties. I have a Loncin pump for when my PV and battery pump runs out of juice! 1K litres in 6-7 mins out of a nearby river... Courtesy of STW under a scheme

steveR · Jan 29, 2020

texelburger said:
We have some temporary grass going into spuds in early May and was wondering how easy it would be to set up a drinking trough with a battery powered pump to fill it from a stream.There would also need to be a switch on the ballcock valve to turn the pump off when full.Would this be feasible and easy to set up ?

Yes, I am using 3 of these setups partially paid for by Grants to keep stock out of watercourses. Had to use pukka items to get the grant, but a homebrew setup can be done for 150 quid. Biggest cost is the battery!!

cotswoldcs · Jan 29, 2020

I've wondered about a setup using a solar powered/12v garden water feature/ pond pump taking water from a stream to a trough and then letting any overflow go back down another pipe back to said stream. Never tried it but it must be possible and economical.

Would this work?

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Bury the Trash · Jan 30, 2020

cotswoldcs said:
I've wondered about a setup using a solar powered/12v garden water feature/ pond pump taking water from a stream to a trough and then letting any overflow go back down another pipe back to said stream. Never tried it but it must be possible and economical.

Would this work?

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Yes it would.

But Use a bigger solar panel, appropriate charge controller and a decent battery or 2 ...then even with long nights and on poor 'solar' days it will keep topped up, could run an electric fencer from it at the same as well.

But as said above, if its in a 'visible to people' area security is the issue of course.

Poorbuthappy · Jan 30, 2020

steveR said:
Filling an IBC with a 12v pump will do your head quickly.... or should I say, VERY slowly!

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Is a better bet. Or even better, a pump out of Aldi or Lidl with 3 yr warranties. I have a Loncin pump for when my PV and battery pump runs out of juice! 1K litres in 6-7 mins out of a nearby river... Courtesy of STW under a scheme

Yep, I have 1 of these

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Fills an ibc in 5 mins.

Bury the Trash · Jan 30, 2020

Unless it's a black one ibc will turn the water 'algaefied' in as little as one bright sunny day.

Black ones or an ex orange juice container is what we use .

Can get a n engine driven pump that will cope with the odd small stone for around a hundred quid new these days, it will fill the tank when needed in minutes. And carried on the bike with pipework, to and fro.
Just put a 3/4 bibcock in the side of the orange juice type tank just off the bottom, and a steel feed trough or the like (easy to empty and clean) and fill from the tap once a day when you go to see them.

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