JCB pulling tri axle hi side trailer 10.30pm on Saturday on main road?

So when would a farmer need to run on tachograph and white fuel ?
If he was travelling more than 60 miles radius from base using the tractor for anything other than agricultural purposes like haulage even his own diggers or machinery in the trailer if he was using it for hire or reward this includes transporting horses to shows ploughing Competitions if there is prize money or trophy dvsa know no limits to theses petty regulations and will enforce them if they see fit I'm long suffering hgv low loader driver and our company got done years back for crossing a road to the next job on red diesel just needs the wrong officer on the wrong day
 

Pennine Ploughing

Member
Mixed Farmer
If he was travelling more than 60 miles radius from base using the tractor for anything other than agricultural purposes like haulage even his own diggers or machinery in the trailer if he was using it for hire or reward this includes transporting horses to shows ploughing Competitions if there is prize money or trophy dvsa know no limits to theses petty regulations and will enforce them if they see fit I'm long suffering hgv low loader driver and our company got done years back for crossing a road to the next job on red diesel just needs the wrong officer on the wrong day
And how many tractors have you come across with a tacho fitted
 

Estate fencing.

Member
Livestock Farmer
We are scanning next to his house tomorrow, I will ask him but probably not home as he's a very hard work chap.
Christ they do run some impressive kit mind!
 
This website should give you a clue.
www.sdlsolutions.co.uk. as in TFF member @BBC post.
could we put an appeal out and try and get him to come forward and explain?
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If some weirdos off the internet sent a appeal out to me to explain what I was doing one night they’d get telt to feck off :LOL:
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Be a brave man that asked you what you get up to at a night..... Be a braver one that actually genuinely wanted the answer....:ROFLMAO:
 
And how many tractors have you come across with a tacho fitted
Dosent make it legal as they now say ignorance is no defence last year they started cracking down on farmers in our area but focusing on axle weights trailer road worthiness and load security our firm got caught cutting a school field on red but did him for crossing the road to get across to the other field like I said wrong one on the wrong day and you have a head ache case files also warn against delivering bales to other farms or collecting manure and not using it on land straight away but taking it to storage... They do walk amongst us
 

Pennine Ploughing

Member
Mixed Farmer
Dosent make it legal as they now say ignorance is no defence last year they started cracking down on farmers in our area but focusing on axle weights trailer road worthiness and load security our firm got caught cutting a school field on red but did him for crossing the road to get across to the other field like I said wrong one on the wrong day and you have a head ache case files also warn against delivering bales to other farms or collecting manure and not using it on land straight away but taking it to storage... They do walk amongst us
I think you cannot use red diesel for anything to do with horses either, as in loading or spreading muçk or cutting grass or baling hay on land used for horses,
There quite lucky really as I see many tractors each week in grey area's that are likely to be stopped, yet none seem to be
 

Tomtrac

Member
Location
Penrith cumbria
I think you cannot use red diesel for anything to do with horses either, as in loading or spreading muçk or cutting grass or baling hay on land used for horses,
There quite lucky really as I see many tractors each week in grey area's that are likely to be stopped, yet none seem to be

I am under the impression that you can use red to work any fields it just that you cannot drive on the roads on red to-get there and that includes headge cutting on a road off a non agri place
But as for crossing the road there is/was a rule as we did plant hire if working on a pipe line etc we could use tractors to go from one are off a pipe line down the road to another site
Like a farmer going between his fields but only in a certain radias
Did the man mentioned above get prosecuted Going from land to land mowing as half the tome these coppers are talking bull poo but nobody dare call there bluff and go to court and worst off all things are different from county to county
 

Pennine Ploughing

Member
Mixed Farmer
I am under the impression that you can use red to work any fields it just that you cannot drive on the roads on red to-get there and that includes headge cutting on a road off a non agri place
But as for crossing the road there is/was a rule as we did plant hire if working on a pipe line etc we could use tractors to go from one are off a pipe line down the road to another site
Like a farmer going between his fields but only in a certain radias
Did the man mentioned above get prosecuted Going from land to land mowing as half the tome these coppers are talking bull poo but nobody dare call there bluff and go to court and worst off all things are different from county to county
bit of light reading in the link below


Activities not accepted as falling within the definition of agriculture, horticulture or forestry include:
the breeding, rearing or keeping of any creature for purposes relating to sport or recreation
dealing in agricultural, horticultural or forestry products
landscaping
the maintenance of recreational facilities, including beaches
flood protection
peat or loam extraction
the exploitation of wild animal or fish stocks
construction of buildings or other structures used for purposes relating to agriculture, horticulture or forestry
transportation of agricultural, horticultural or forestry produce, livestock, implements, inputs or waste, other than where this is incidental to an agricultural, horticultural or forestry operation being performed on the land – accepted transportation uses are as set out under this agreement
Subject to restrictions in the definition of the particular type of vehicle, agricultural vehicles may use red diesel on public roads and will maintain exemption from vehicle excise duty in the following circumstances.
Movement of machinery
This includes:
travel to and from a place where the vehicle is to be used or has been used solely for agricultural, horticultural or forestry purposes
transport of trailed or mounted agricultural, horticultural and forestry implements, and of equipment or inputs required for the operation of such an implement, as part of an agricultural, horticultural or forestry operation – this does not include transportation or towing of personal accommodation
taking agricultural vehicles and trailed or mounted implements to be serviced or repaired
delivery or collection of an agricultural vehicle used solely for agricultural, horticultural, or forestry purposes that has been bought, sold or hired
Movement of machinery by dealers and others not engaged in agriculture, horticulture or forestry is not covered by this agreement.
Movement of produce and livestock
This includes:
transportation of agricultural, horticultural or forestry produce within or between different areas of land occupied by the same person
transportation of livestock within or between different areas of land occupied by the same person
transport of agricultural, horticultural or forestry produce from the place of production or temporary storage
transport of livestock to a place where the produce is to be sold or slaughtered
The transportation of produce must be incidental to an agricultural, horticultural or forestry operation being performed on the land. The responsibility is on the person transporting the load to demonstrate that this is the case. Transportation of produce which requires an operator’s licence may not be accepted as being incidental. Transportation on public roads of produce or livestock by a contractor employed solely for that purpose is not included within this agreement.
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Red Tractor drops launch of green farming scheme amid anger from farmers

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As reported in Independent


quote: “Red Tractor has confirmed it is dropping plans to launch its green farming assurance standard in April“

read the TFF thread here: https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/gfc-was-to-go-ahead-now-not-going-ahead.405234/
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