New shed- all under one roof?

Gator · Feb 28, 2020

Hilly said:
exactly everyone’s circumstances are different , these people who think no one can do things Cos they can’t and try to second guess other people’s financial situations are silly . No farmer ever said I wish I had not built that shed ! Every farmer including me says at some point I wish I had built that shed bigger or I wish I had another shed

SPOT ON

Poorbuthappy · Feb 28, 2020

farmerm said:
Can a sheep profits ever pay back capital on a sheep shed...

Possibly not, but the sub might.
Whether it will in future....

farmerm · Feb 28, 2020

Poorbuthappy said:
Possibly not, but the sub might.
Whether it will in future....

There is no sub in the future... or haven't you heard?

Poorbuthappy · Feb 28, 2020

farmerm said:
There is no sub in the future... or haven't you heard?

Well its certainly changing, hence my second line.

Chris123 · Feb 28, 2020

Wouldn’t be surprised if we are not paid to house ewes over winter as part of the new elms scheme. Or is that just optimistic thinking

Agrivator · Feb 28, 2020

Chris123 said:
Wouldn’t be surprised if we are not paid to house ewes over winter as part of the new elms scheme. Or is that just optimistic thinking

Should not be removed from your above post. It would be great if we were to be paid to house ewes overwinter.

unlacedgecko · Feb 28, 2020

Purli R said:
Big farmer near here on putting sheep shed up near 300ft x 80ft costing more than expected(200k alledgedly) to the point that it wont be fully finished this year.Will sheep profits pay back such a capital outlay?

No

Will 1594 · Feb 28, 2020

Nearly said:
If it's an exposed site then why not do what the old boys did? 3 sheds in a U shape facing south and then you've got a 'free' sheltered area in the middle.

Brick clad on out side , ?,maybe one day rodney , Nice barn conversion

Nearly · Feb 28, 2020

Will 1594 said:
Brick clad on out side , ?,maybe one day rodney , Nice barn conversion

Industrial units

Bob · Feb 28, 2020

TheRock said:
Thinking of putting up a new shed on a greenfield site.

The shed will be for housing up to about 800 sheep (about 300 ewe lambs and possible 500 ewes for a period) and possibly a few cattle just for calving.

My question is, should it be one big shed or a few smaller ones?

This will be near enough the only building on the farm.

Many thanks

What size single shed do you need to house those numbers?

I reckon 220ft long 100ft wide single span

steveR · Feb 28, 2020

Chris123 said:
Wouldn’t be surprised if we are not paid to house ewes over winter as part of the new elms scheme. Or is that just optimistic thinking

Was talking about this yesterday.... initial reading of the paperwork suggests it might be an option.

Al R · Feb 28, 2020

Chris123 said:
Wouldn’t be surprised if we are not paid to house ewes over winter as part of the new elms scheme. Or is that just optimistic thinking

Why though? Just because your in a wet area? Plenty of land is well draining, heavy stone infestations, nowhere near a river? Take Cotswold brash as an example? I’ve been taking bales across turnip fields to feed the ewes all winter, hardly on good tyres either ?‍

Bald Rick · Feb 28, 2020

Just a small thought for you to think about with going for one shed .....

Planning Fees.

Will easily be over £7k for 200’x100’

JD-Kid · Feb 28, 2020

of the sheds a one trick pony. very had to make it stack up
more use's the more the shed can be. spread out
maybe short term grain storage or gear. for a contractor. etc etc

Wombat · Feb 28, 2020

Bald Rick said:
Just a small thought for you to think about with going for one shed .....

Planning Fees.

Will easily be over £7k for 200’x100’

Yup but i am seriously considering paying that as i think a 220ft x 100ft split for two applications would be worth never having a valley gutter and the general ease of use

delilah · Feb 28, 2020

Tim G said:
I think I would avoid one shed, disease control may be easier in two or three smaller buildings, isolation, alternative uses etc.

This.
We only have one shed. Having just lost a heifer to MCF, and now playing a waiting game with the others, I never want to have cattle and sheep in the same shed again.

Bald Rick · Feb 28, 2020

Wombat said:
Yup but i am seriously considering paying that as i think a 220ft x 100ft split for two applications would be worth never having a valley gutter and the general ease of use

I would do the maths before splitting
Planning is becoming a nightmare to the extent where any development of any scale, it is worth using planning consultants and letting them take the pain.

Incidentally, I was mulling over the judgement passed down on Heathrow’s third runway and wondering if environmentalists don’t start using it as precedent to object to livestock shed applications

Wombat · Feb 28, 2020

Bald Rick said:
I would do the maths before splitting
Planning is becoming a nightmare to the extent where any development of any scale, it is worth using planning consultants and letting them take the pain.

Incidentally, I was mulling over the judgement passed down on Heathrow’s third runway and wondering if environmentalists don’t start using it as precedent to object to livestock shed applications

Yup but as we live within 3km of a grass airfield everything we do has to have full planning anyway as AG development isn;t allowed so we just have to crack on

delilah · Feb 28, 2020

Bald Rick said:
Incidentally, I was mulling over the judgement passed down on Heathrow’s third runway and wondering if vegans don’t start using it as precedent to object to livestock shed applications

edited for you

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Hilly · Feb 28, 2020

Bald Rick said:
Just a small thought for you to think about with going for one shed .....

Planning Fees.

Will easily be over £7k for 200’x100’

I built a 200 x 100 9 years ago and the planing was 7k then absolute day light robbery .

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