French smash it

Chris F · Mar 18, 2020

slackjawedyokel said:
Yes, however I’m too soft and agreed to give them a second S21 term, which expired towards the end of Feb. I held off taking legal action because they were making out to the letting agent that they had something imminent in the pipeline. I just engaged a solicitor last week.

Landlords do have this image in the popular media of being evil money grabbers, but this sort of thing leaves me with the impression that if you have any sort of compassion, you just end up getting screwed over.

No good deed will go unpunished!

Anyway, I get the impression that ~5 months is not that long to gain possession of a property you own, going down the S21/accelerated possession route.

I haven’t done my landlord Exams for a while, but you can’t give a second S21 term. If you renew the tennancy and it’s in a fixed term then you have to serve a section 8. Section 21 is used when a tennancy is in a month by month status and initial term has passed.

General advice is Serve a notice regardless. Then if they pay, great. If not. Straight to court papers. I’ve evicted a lot of people in my time.

MRT · Mar 18, 2020

uztrac said:
Council tax is my dislike,£150 a month for a weekly dustbin collection !!

You get every week for only £150??

Tomr10 · Mar 18, 2020

Unfortunately I have freinds 1 has had his restaurant fold , company my wife works for on the verge and my neighbor's nursery also on the cusp all insured but nothing is covered will be about 70 people out of work. Also know a few people who have been asked to work less days. Everyone needs to do there bit but some will take take take

will l · Mar 18, 2020

PuG said:
Here employers are paying 70% of there staffs wages. If they can work at home great, if not then there allowed to take time off without using holiday times. The Gov is making up the 30% deficit so full wage.

The mortgage and utility bills relief is for restaurants and cafe's, hairdressers and such businesses,

glasshouse · Mar 18, 2020

beardface said:
By the timd the virus is over Boris won't need to worry about brexit as there won't be an EU to leave with policies like that!

The french economy on the contrary will recover a lot quicker due to policies like that.

glasshouse · Mar 18, 2020

Tim G said:
Yes, that maybe the case, it was a bit of a flippant remark on my part. My wife and I have a house we rent out (still paying the mortgage on) and I'm a bit worried our tenants may not be paying the rent, he works as a driving instructor so that may stop, but has a second job in asda, so may get extra hours there. But always the risk of not being able to work. We rely on the rental income to pay the mortgage. On the other hand we rent the farm and house we live in here, and whilst out landlord falls into the inherited category still needs the rent coming in. I'm worried we are going to have to pay the rent here and the mortgage on our own place.

The french move was very clever to cancel both rent and mortgage payments to protect those like yourself

Hilly · Mar 18, 2020

glasshouse said:
The french economy on the contrary will recover a lot quicker due to policies like that.

Go n live in france ffs go on bog off .

glasshouse · Mar 18, 2020

Hilly said:
Go n live in france ffs go on bog off .

Charming as ever i see.

crazy_bull · Mar 18, 2020

Tomr10 said:
That’s not what I’m saying, I’m saying my landlord shouldn’t be taking advantage of the situation to get a bit more paid off his mortgage

I think the missed months are simply added onto the end of the mortgage term, so just delaying the payments not writing them off.

Friend has a few House let, both occupied by families with two incomes, both working from home on full pay, one has announced he won't be paying any rent going forward a he's heard other landlords are letting people off their rent during this crisis.

I worry that the really needy will get lost in the clamour of the greedy.

C B

Tomr10 · Mar 18, 2020

crazy_bull said:
I think the missed months are simply added onto the end of the mortgage term, so just delaying the payments not writing them off.

Friend has a few House let, both occupied by families with two incomes, both working from home on full pay, one has announced he won't be paying any rent going forward a he's heard other landlords are letting people off their rent during this crisis.

I worry that the really needy will get lost in the clamour of the greedy.

C B

Yer its added on the end. Again the problem everyone wants everything

Hilly · Mar 18, 2020

glasshouse said:
Charming as ever i see.

Pot kettle black , you hate everything about the uk so why hang about bitching and moaning ? Your going to end up old mental miserable and lonely. Change the record or leave.

Brisel · Mar 18, 2020

glasshouse said:
The french economy on the contrary will recover a lot quicker due to policies like that.

Who do you think will be funding all of this? The French government will just do it with someone else's money. Mortgages will still be accruing interest.

Brisel · Mar 18, 2020

Tomr10 said:
My point is as a god landlord and tenant relationship sure you want to be of benefit to each other. What if they simply can’t pay. I won’t start the argument about buys can’t get a house due to people who rent.

Define "get a house?" plenty available to rent if you can't get a mortgage.

I agree that there needs to be some common ground, but some will just use this as an excuse to avoid paying out the rent without necessarily having lost the means to do so.

glasshouse · Mar 18, 2020

Brisel said:
Define "get a house?" plenty available to rent if you can't get a mortgage.

I agree that there needs to be some common ground, but some will just use this as an excuse to avoid paying out the rent without necessarily having lost the means to do so.

Why do you always take the minority view?
A great many tenants are facing grave danger of homelessness due to no fault of their own, yet you would deny them help because a few might abuse it?

glasshouse · Mar 18, 2020

Brisel said:
Who do you think will be funding all of this? The French government will just do it with someone else's money. Mortgages will still be accruing interest.

The french govt always act in the public interest, unlike the uk govt who look after the banks first

The Seeker · Mar 18, 2020

we were in the process of evicting a non paying tenant out of a property we own, she's not paid a penny in months and months then she dropped 100 into the account the other week as part payment - her boyfriend lives with her tho he's not on the tenancy oh and he drive porsche cayenne. i think this now means we are stuck with them for the foreseeable future as you can't evict non paying tenants under the new rules form what we understand ... great

Danllan · Mar 18, 2020

glasshouse said:
The french have cancelled all rent, mortgage and utility bills for three months
They dont seem to be slave to banks like the uk

Yep, they'll fearlessly spend every last Euro that Germany's got.

Brisel · Mar 18, 2020

glasshouse said:
Why do you always take the minority view?
A great many tenants are facing grave danger of homelessness due to no fault of their own, yet you would deny them help because a few might abuse it?

Where did I say that? Minority view? Ha ha. Just a different view to you. You'd have a different view if you were the laird!

There's a sensible middle ground, but a nefarious few will exploit it. Create a scheme, create a schemer.

ollandroverman · Mar 19, 2020

Tomr10 said:
That’s not what I’m saying, I’m saying my landlord shouldn’t be taking advantage of the situation to get a bit more paid off his mortgage

It doesn't work like that.
What you are saying is that tennants should be able to avoid paying a few months or more of their rent...ever.
Where as the landlord still has every single penny of their borrowings to repay. The 'holiday" only means that it doesn't have to be paid right now.

Tomr10 · Mar 19, 2020

ollandroverman said:
It doesn't work like that.
What you are saying is that tennants should be able to avoid paying a few months or more of their rent...ever.
Where as the landlord still has every single penny of their borrowings to repay. The 'holiday" only means that it doesn't have to be paid right now.

Not at all what I'm saying is the opposite. I'm sure that both side will try it on

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