Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Same here!
What I’m sort of getting at is if this lamb was destined for China and it was stopped because they had the virus why the hell is it coming here? I doubt the lamb for Germany and UAE was ordered the day before but it’s still cancelled
As I understand it, no export has been deliberately “stopped”. China has been unable to accept imports due to staff problems in cutting plants, they have not made a deliberate attempt to influence the market by banking imports. Same as the Eu, if you can get it there and they can cut it then the market (which we massively depend upon) is open.
 
Agreed, utter nonsense, it’s clearly tacticaldepress prices when

Surely though it is the intention to import at the time when there is plenty of domestic lamb in the first place that is the real crime. They have done it before and will again. It’s a bad job when we are so reliant on an export trade when we could easily supply our own market.
Of you can produce a six leg lamb with no head, guts etc then we won’t need to export or import. Simple.
 

Smith31

Member
If you produce the very best lambs then most will be exported as the uk customers will not pay the premium. A lot of heavy lambs will also go to Europe as with the small hill lambs. Apart from the Muslim trade the main need is for run of the mill R3L lamb at 16 to 20kg which not all of us produce


Your post is far too honest and factual for this forum ;)

Makes such a refreshing change to hear the thoughts of a farmer who pays attention to the market and actually understands the price influencing factors (y). Yes we import lamb but we also export much more.......
 

andybk

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
I also want quality new calved dairy cows at £800. Just cos you want it doesn't mean you'll get itView attachment 866468
so having kept a lamb for 12+ months ,and after the winter we have just had they now want to pay £65,
i see tesco advert offering leg of lamb half price down from £14.99kg to £7kg
you lads up north fill your boots , no competition from me
 

Northern territory

Member
Livestock Farmer
So are we now saying we have to take £65 for them at this time of the year even tho we’ve kept them all winter so there’s a continuous supply
May as well just dump the whole lot in August this year and let them go hungry from Christmas till May
This is the truth, wether we like it or not, it’s fact.
Whats your advice then. Sell early and minimise your costs but take a lower price?
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
D:Ream 'Things Can Only Get Better'.

Perhaps someone needs to create a livestock
board to counteract these big retailers .
They take the mick when they run adverts saying
they support British agriculture when they are blatantly
only concerned with their shareholder value.
 

LAMBCHOPS

Member
D:Ream 'Things Can Only Get Better'.

Perhaps someone needs to create a livestock
board to counteract these big retailers .
They take the mick when they run adverts saying
they support British agriculture when they are blatantly
only concerned with their shareholder value.
We have a board which is a levy funded which does not have farmers involved. If you want to counteract them and it is about time we all woke up to the fact we are at the mercy of the meat trade as we have no control of the finished price.This saga will define the future of the "fat market" as we cannot be held out to dry as its our livelehood. We must increase our involvement in the abattoir business (Farmers Fresh have two plants and export and that is what a small group of Farmers i Mid Wales saw 20 years ago and have 2500 shareholders). The livestock store ring is bouyant as farmers are the bidders but for that to work we have to know our end product price-- A price which is sustainable. Allied to that we must employ our own PR Firms and collect our levies ourselves. Young Farmer / Social media a massive free advertising forum totally ignored and unused.. Any body seen an advert promoting our product -- theres one on the telly which is counteracted by the Tesco offer of cheap Lamb at £7 which will be seen more. . I sell most of my lambs direct but would happily place them in the hands of auctioneer as the agent and each market should own/control their own haulage lorry network. We dont want the highs and lows but a consistent price which we would have to work with the supermarkets. Owning millions of pounds of land and assets is a waste of time when we do not control the end product price. We must take responsibility in our marketing up a couple of notches. Prior to entering Europe we had a guarenteed price system and now that we are leaving we must examine that workable system again and adapt it to the modern era. Marketing of livestock has always evolved in different ways and we must adapt again
 
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S J H

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Bedfordshire
so having kept a lamb for 12+ months ,and after the winter we have just had they now want to pay £65,
i see tesco advert offering leg of lamb half price down from £14.99kg to £7kg
you lads up north fill your boots , no competition from me

TBH I'd still rather have my hoggs here, than looking at early lambs motoring on creep, after having to feed their mothers aswell.
 

Treg

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Cornwall
We have a board which is a levy funded which does not have farmers involved. If you want to counteract them and it is about time we all woke up to the fact we are at the mercy of the meat trade as we have no control of the finished price.This saga will define the future of the "fat market" as we cannot be held out to dry as its our livelehood. We must increase our involvement in the abattoir business (Farmers Fresh have two plants and export and that is what a small group of Farmers i Mid Wales saw 20 years ago and have 2500 shareholders). The livestock store ring is bouyant as farmers are the bidders but for that to work we have to know our end product price-- A price which is sustainable. Allied to that we must employ our own PR Firms and collect our levies ourselves. Young Farmer / Social media a massive free advertising forum totally ignored and unused.. Any body seen an advert promoting our product -- theres one on the telly which is counteracted by the Tesco offer of cheap Lamb at £7 which will be seen more. . I sell most of my lambs direct but would happily place them in the hands of auctioneer as the agent and each market should own/control their own haulage lorry network. We dont want the highs and lows but a consistent price which we would have to work with the supermarkets. Owning millions of pounds of land and assets is a waste of time when we do not control the end product price. We must take responsibility in our marketing up a couple of notches. Prior to entering Europe we had a guarenteed price system and now that we are leaving we must examine that workable system again and adapt it to the modern era. Marketing of livestock has always evolved in different ways and we must adapt again
This^^^ (y) Farmers need more control in the food chain, we need to be investing off farm into the food chain or we just become slaves to the system .
 

LAMBCHOPS

Member
This^^^ (y) Farmers need more control in the food chain, we need to be investing off farm into the food chain or we just become slaves to the system .
Lets hope once this is over we get key people together and move on to the modern way of marketing and supply which makes the job sustainable. Totally agree that we must not be slaves to the system
 

lloyd

Member
Location
Herefordshire
We have a board which is a levy funded which does not have farmers involved. If you want to counteract them and it is about time we all woke up to the fact we are at the mercy of the meat trade as we have no control of the finished price.This saga will define the future of the "fat market" as we cannot be held out to dry as its our livelehood. We must increase our involvement in the abattoir business (Farmers Fresh have two plants and export and that is what a small group of Farmers i Mid Wales saw 20 years ago and have 2500 shareholders). The livestock store ring is bouyant as farmers are the bidders but for that to work we have to know our end product price-- A price which is sustainable. Allied to that we must employ our own PR Firms and collect our levies ourselves. Young Farmer / Social media a massive free advertising forum totally ignored and unused.. Any body seen an advert promoting our product -- theres one on the telly which is counteracted by the Tesco offer of cheap Lamb at £7 which will be seen more. . I sell most of my lambs direct but would happily place them in the hands of auctioneer as the agent and each market should own/control their own haulage lorry network. We dont want the highs and lows but a consistent price which we would have to work with the supermarkets. Owning millions of pounds of land and assets is a waste of time when we do not control the end product price. We must take responsibility in our marketing up a couple of notches. Prior to entering Europe we had a guarenteed price system and now that we are leaving we must examine that workable system again and adapt it to the modern era. Marketing of livestock has always evolved in different ways and we must adapt again

I know we have a board ,what I meant is one
that understands our industry better and uses
the levy money in a more productive way.
The best lamb advert at the moment is Coleman's
which brings humour and makes you want to eat British lamb.
Perhaps we should be backing these sort of firms more.
 

andybk

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
TBH I'd still rather have my hoggs here, than looking at early lambs motoring on creep, after having to feed their mothers aswell.
yea have a few, im doing on feeders , thinking of removing creep now , grass is coming and quality will be there , wont be selling any for a month now at least . £65 - £70 for winter born lambs will be simply a joke with all inputs going up .
 
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Mc115reed

Member
Livestock Farmer
yea have a few, im doing on feeders , thinking of removing creep now , grass is coming and quality will be there , wont be selling any for a month now at least . £65 for winter born lambs is simply a joke with all inputs going up .

Iv about half ton creep left so enough last another week or 2 then hopefully we might know what direction we are heading and I’ll decide if I order another 5 ton or I pick the feeders up
 

andybk

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Mendips Somerset
Iv about half ton creep left so enough last another week or 2 then hopefully we might know what direction we are heading and I’ll decide if I order another 5 ton or I pick the feeders up
we all need to reduce supply now ,
i know its difficult if you have lambs fit ,you arnt going to lose much for a few weeks this time of year , lamb will still be worth that price mid summer and a lot more when euro plants open back up at some point .,
These killing plants are going to have to pay staff and will have extra transport arranged , they will need to cover cost same as us , if supply is difficult they will have to push price up or shut down lines .that isnt going to sit well with public
Unless they reduce the cost to the public which in itself will create demand , at the moment they are ripping both ends of the chain off
This will now highlight that the monopoly restrictions they lifted , has a bad impact on price , so going forward they can look forward to tighter restrictions , i just hope larry thinks its all worth it .this will be remembered like F+M
 
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neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Where does this £65 figure come from, unless they are very small, or badly bred?

Dw base has dropped to £4/kg, with most abattoirs paying up to 22 kg (although some still on 21kg maybe?). I make that £88. That’s for an R3L lamb, which is hardly a market topper, so another £2-3 for better grades.
Yes, £88 certainly isn’t great, and I think it will recover from that, but it’s a long way from £65.
 

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