Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Frank-the-Wool · Mar 29, 2020

LAMBCHOPS said:
Excellent business although perhaps you are not one of the 2500 shareholders of Farmers Fresh as you say you would lose a fortune with an abbatoir ??. Thats not reflected in the six fold increase in share value and their important export business via 2 farmer led plants which underpins indirectly the whole lamb industry in Uk. What you do can also be replicated across the UK and should be held up as a model for our ever changing marketing needs

I am a Shareholder and was over the Ferry. We used to use the ferry regularly and it is much missed, but we have moved on but need to supply all the Europeans who need fresh lamb.
I always make the point that where I live it is quicker to get to the abattoirs in Holland, Belgium and France than many of the abattoirs here, if I could get on a proper ferry from Dover. The abattoirs in northern Europe are every bit as good as here and often better. There in no Non stun Halal in Holland.

I have always tried to have my eggs in as many baskets as possible so when the present problem occurs we have another way out. We are also increasing our beef sales and now have a neighbour who is finishing mostly native cattle to supply some of the same outlets.

Farmers Fresh is a great business but is very reliant on exports, however it has different markets within the EU which take very different lambs from very lean to the very best shaped. It also has very good historic connections to European companies that have been trading for many years.

Northeastfarmer · Mar 29, 2020

Frank-the-Wool said:
I am a Shareholder and was over the Ferry. We used to use the ferry regularly and it is much missed, but we have moved on but need to supply all the Europeans who need fresh lamb.
I always make the point that where I live it is quicker to get to the abattoirs in Holland, Belgium and France than many of the abattoirs here, if I could get on a proper ferry from Dover. The abattoirs in northern Europe are every bit as good as here and often better. There in no Non stun Halal in Holland.

I have always tried to have my eggs in as many baskets as possible so when the present problem occurs we have another way out. We are also increasing our beef sales and now have a neighbour who is finishing mostly native cattle to supply some of the same outlets.

Farmers Fresh is a great business but is very reliant on exports, however it has different markets within the EU which take very different lambs from very lean to the very best shaped. It also has very good historic connections to European companies that have been trading for many years.

Have exports actually stopped? What’s the problem getting it into Europe atm ?

lloyd · Mar 29, 2020

Henarar said:
You need to see the bigger picture as well
this is NOT something that just kills those that were about to peg it anyway
many lives have been and will be lost just because folk have to go off wondering, firstly to places like china and fly it back here and now with folk dying they won't stay away from other people,
I can't make it out, most peoples biggest expense is buying or renting somewhere to live and yet they spend half their time thinking of excuses to feck off somewhere else, you would think there would be more camper vans sold for folk to live in wouldn't you then they could be a different place every fecking day FFS

This is going off topic but just for the record
my mate sells more motorhomes than caravans now (Well he was).

Smith31 · Mar 29, 2020

gone up the hill said:
They are now saying it will get even stricter.

And will carry on until at least June.

There wont be any businesses or jobs left by then, supplies to key sectors will run out if it carry's on that long.

And if it carry's on for that long the beef and sheep prices will be 50% lower than what they are today.

GUTH I respect your points of view, many of which are valid. The implications of the virus will be felt for many years to come from a financial perspective.

Unfortunately, there will be many younger farming families on here who will be reading your posts, whilst they are financed up to the eyeballs and will be extremely worried at present. Anexeity and stress can be just as devastating as any virus known to man.

With respect I think we should all (including myself) only report postiviety or keep our personal thoughts silent at present.

None of us know what the future may hold, but one thing is for sure, folk will have to eat and there will be a demand for our products.

lloyd · Mar 29, 2020

Look on a positive note,
lots of farmers were ready to increase their
sheep flocks along with newbie arable converts.
This might just make them think and put the brakes on.
Before f&m there were too many sheep and lacklustre prices.
We dont want to go back there

Henarar · Mar 29, 2020

Frank-the-Wool said:
I always make the point that where I live it is quicker to get to the abattoirs in Holland, Belgium and France than many of the abattoirs here, if I could get on a proper ferry from Dover. The abattoirs in northern Europe are every bit as good as here and often better. There in no Non stun Halal in Holland.

I never did get the opposition to live export when supposedly the rest of the EU was meant to be on the same standards as us

gone up the hill · Mar 29, 2020

Henarar said:
You need to see the bigger picture as well
this is NOT something that just kills those that were about to peg it anyway
many lives have been and will be lost just because folk have to go off wondering, firstly to places like china and fly it back here and now with folk dying they won't stay away from other people,
I can't make it out, most peoples biggest expense is buying or renting somewhere to live and yet they spend half their time thinking of excuses to feck off somewhere else, you would think there would be more camper vans sold for folk to live in wouldn't you then they could be a different place every fecking day FFS

You need to read up about what it was like and what happened in the 1930's depression.

Henarar · Mar 29, 2020

gone up the hill said:
You need to read up about what it was like and what happened in the 1930's depression.

And you need to read up on Spanish flu or the black death

gone up the hill · Mar 29, 2020

Henarar said:
And you need to read up on Spanish flu or the black death

Totally different eras and not comparable.

Henarar · Mar 29, 2020

gone up the hill said:
Totally different eras and not comparable.

And the 1930's isnt a totally different era LOL don't make me laugh

gone up the hill · Mar 29, 2020

Smith31 said:
GUTH I respect your points of view, many of which are valid. The implications of the virus will be felt for many years to come from a financial perspective.

Unfortunately, there will be many younger farming families on here who will be reading your posts, whilst they are financed up to the eyeballs and will be extremely worried at present. Anexeity and stress can be just as devastating as any virus known to man.

With respect I think we should all (including myself) only report postiviety or keep our personal thoughts silent at present.

None of us know what the future may hold, but one thing is for sure, folk will have to eat and there will be a demand for our products.

Problem is that all these things I point out are very likely to happen if it carry's on for long.

The more meddling the government do the worst they make it ( take the 80% wages thing which means nearly every business/ company in the UK are shutting down when they don't need to.

People actually need to start thinking ahead about problems that lie ahead from a long term lockdown and start highlighting the issues to their local MP's etc.

And as for being positive, well you need to pull up JP1 as he is posting all sorts of scare mongering pics of new hospitals being set up in the UK on another thread!

gone up the hill · Mar 29, 2020

Henarar said:
And the 1930's isnt a totally different era LOL don't make me laugh

You don't get it do you!

Henarar · Mar 29, 2020

gone up the hill said:
You don't get it do you!

You don't get it do you!!
There see I put two of these ! So must be right

lloyd · Mar 29, 2020

gone up the hill said:
You need to read up about what it was like and what happened in the 1930's depression.

You could well be proved right if this carried on for 6months
but calm down a bit as we've only been going a few days in lockdown .

Henarar · Mar 29, 2020

Actually mate I do "get" the fact that prolonging this partial lockdown will hurt people's finances and may lead to businesses going under and lots of other things, none of us want to be told we can't do what we want to do.
But would you concede @gone up the hill that getting dead is not going to help someones business and the death of a loved one is not going to help either ?
Simple yes or no will do
Do you also understand what the government is trying to do in preventing us all getting CV at the same time so the NHS has a better chance of keeping more people alive ? Do you "get" that or are you going to carry on with your theory that they have other reasons for doing it ?

cattleman123 · Mar 29, 2020

gone up the hill said:
You need to look at the bigger picture, shutting the country down like this for months on end with no hope of getting parts/ supplies for key industry's is going to cause a lot more problems than it solves let alone the millions of people that will have no jobs/ income for years to come when this is all over.

We all know this is serious for anyone with underlying health problems but there needs to be a balance, 2/3 week lockdown to give the NHS/ Government time to re-organise is one thing but months on end is just not sustainable.

Guth...do you not get it...we are all shutting down to stop the spread...do you hear, to stop the spread...you really must take this on board this is more serious than you have ever known in your lifetime,now be a good boy and take a min to think about it before replying .

Boydvalley · Mar 29, 2020

Shebb90 said:
How long ago did you have it? And was you able to work throw it?

Fever lasted a week, horrible dry cough lasted 10 days. Coughing fits would take your breath away.
Yes worked through on my own but I wouldn’t recommend it. Done in by lunch and probably prolonged it.
Had it early Feb and thought I had a strange type of flue that I picked up in London. It’s been around along time. Fortunately we were isolated for a week due to circumstances and didn’t pass it on. Luck really.

Northeastfarmer · Mar 29, 2020

Boydvalley said:
Fever lasted a week, horrible dry cough lasted 10 days. Coughing fits would take your breath away.
Yes worked through on my own but I wouldn’t recommend it. Done in by lunch and probably prolonged it.
Had it early Feb and thought I had a strange type of flue that I picked up in London. It’s been around along time. Fortunately we were isolated for a week due to circumstances and didn’t pass it on. Luck really.

Have you had it confirmed you had it? My dad had exactky the same symptoms at exactly the same time

digger64 · Mar 29, 2020

Boydvwritten post: 6848644 said:
Fever lasted a week, horrible dry cough lasted 10 days. Coughing fits would take your breath away.
Yes worked through on my own but I wouldn’t recommend it. Done in by lunch and probably prolonged it.
Had it early Feb and thought I had a strange type of flue that I picked up in London. It’s been around along time. Fortunately we were isolated for a week due to circumstances and didn’t pass it on. Luck really.

I could have wriiten that to late Jan .

Woolless · Mar 29, 2020

Henarar said:
I never did get the opposition to live export when supposedly the rest of the EU was meant to be on the same standards as us

It's just more folk that don't understand the job shoving their oar in and appealing to the public, most of whom know sweet FA.

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