Bossfarmer
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do you graze that with cattle?Best thing for our heavy fields is plenty of time spent in grass and clover, just unstoppable, no need for rain in the summer
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do you graze that with cattle?Best thing for our heavy fields is plenty of time spent in grass and clover, just unstoppable, no need for rain in the summer
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whats your annual rainfall down at stirling?That’s why it’s mostly in grass/hay maybe some of it wouldn’t be too bad if it was in a dryer area........we don’t go very far to find a drain here and some of it should be grassed down forever and only reseeded in a dry summer
No it's silage with muck back, temporary fencing and sheep over winterdo you graze that with cattle?
whats your annual rainfall down at stirling?That’s why it’s mostly in grass/hay maybe some of it wouldn’t be too bad if it was in a dryer area........we don’t go very far to find a drain here and some of it should be grassed down forever and only reseeded in a dry summer
1000mm ish had about 400mm this year already other farm 8 mile further west will be nearer 1200mmwhats your annual rainfall down at stirling?
Sorry to go off topic, but what make off bonnet gard is that? I have bought a 2nd hand loader for my 7530 and it did not come with one and some I've looked at look very flimsy, a closer photo would be great some time, cheers.View attachment 864990
this is probably our Middle ground just we are ploughing it now.
Couple of runs with pigtails, leave to go dry for a couple of days then spread fert and combi drill . No point in ploughing up slop .What’s best best option on failed winter wheat on heavy ground?
I suspect it is probably a summer cover crop but if you were to try and get spring crop in what would be best way of creating a seedbed. Reset with plough and batter it into some sort of seedbed or burst up the top somehow without bringing up too much wet stuff?
Good wheat ground and get decent spring barley if autumn ploughed but this is what it looks like today.
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Looks nasty, you have my sympathyWhat’s best best option on failed winter wheat on heavy ground?
I suspect it is probably a summer cover crop but if you were to try and get spring crop in what would be best way of creating a seedbed. Reset with plough and batter it into some sort of seedbed or burst up the top somehow without bringing up too much wet stuff?
Good wheat ground and get decent spring barley if autumn ploughed but this is what it looks like today.
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Aye we have all been there when bad wet weather comes after drilling. Fortunes of farming in a wet climate. Hopefully the spring barley will work out and redeem the field for the year . I suppose the ardent dd bucks are tut tutting at the sight as if such a thing would never happen them .Looks nasty, you have my sympathy
Shallow rip with a chisel plough leave for 24-48 hours to haze off then straight in with a drill hope for kind weather and it will do great if the weather goes either too wet or too dryWhat’s best best option on failed winter wheat on heavy ground?
I suspect it is probably a summer cover crop but if you were to try and get spring crop in what would be best way of creating a seedbed. Reset with plough and batter it into some sort of seedbed or burst up the top somehow without bringing up too much wet stuff?
Good wheat ground and get decent spring barley if autumn ploughed but this is what it looks like today.
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Sure to find plenty much the same here. V difficult stuff but catch it right & if the season is kind it yields not bad crops some years...Quite often read descriptions of ground being described as "heavy" but somebodies idea of heavy ground might be the lightest that another farms.
I thought I'd post some pics of our heavy land that I been ploughing the last two days for comparison.
The last picture is where the back tyre of the tractor disappeared into a wet hole and it then filled itself in again when I backed out. You certainly wouldn't stand on it.
You can have all your fancy DD & Zero Till until the cows come home but it will yield even less.
We have 100% red clay lot around us have used front mounted spring ties, followed by a combination drill, or one pass with a power Harrow and then the same combi drill then rolled. Best not to rip it up in big chucks or it soon drys like that, if it needs a pan removing sub it, then the above.What’s best best option on failed winter wheat on heavy ground?
I suspect it is probably a summer cover crop but if you were to try and get spring crop in what would be best way of creating a seedbed. Reset with plough and batter it into some sort of seedbed or burst up the top somehow without bringing up too much wet stuff?
Good wheat ground and get decent spring barley if autumn ploughed but this is what it looks like today.
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Where in the country are you?We have 100% red clay lot around us have used front mounted spring ties, followed by a combination drill, or one pass with a power Harrow and then the same combi drill then rolled. Best not to rip it up in big chucks or it soon drys like that, if it needs a pan removing sub it, then the above.
Very nice seed beds around here done like this.
Profit is not king your correct, But the min till men on strong land next to my good ploughed, drilled WW had a 100% crop fail with min till on A field bang next to mine, With the same soil.Is yield or profit king though?
If the DD costs a quarter of the costs to establish while being better for the environment should that not be factored in too.
We're 100% arable now but some area should be in grass . Perhaps in years to come the folk that can make DD work will grow crops and this heavy stuff , many of us can't make a job of will end up back in grass?
East of Doncaster. Near the river Trent.Where in the country are you?
We call it Bulls liver, you near the isle?East of Doncaster. Near the river Trent.
they extracted red clay in a quarry to make bricks for years just near us.
What we call red is not the worst we have, the worst can turn a shiny plough into a smeared mess in 2 meters. And drop you down two gears. We call it Cat S..t thankfully it winter fallows lovely.
In it FerryWe call it Bulls liver, you near the isle?