- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
You’d be foolish to think I didn’t have a quote in front of me
Fendt or Fastrac
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- Start date
You’d be foolish to think I didn’t have a quote in front of me
kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
I tend to agree with your post, when I knew of them their operators certainly weren't the best. Having said that chipping/mapping tractors beyond their limits and chucking d*ckheads on the seat is not exclusive to Robinsons.
Plenty of brand new chipped tractors coming out of UK dealers. Their reliability then becomes part of the brands reputation, whether they deserve it or not.
if you are going trailed sprayer you will need a tractor with High Oil Flow,Large wheels for clearance ,IVT transmisison
Isobus and Guidance that work
telematics for documentation, remote display asccess for support and connect support
So a John Deere 6215r ticks the boxes
Isobus and Guidance that work
telematics for documentation, remote display asccess for support and connect support
So a John Deere 6215r ticks the boxes
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warksfarmer
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Had quotes full spec 724 profi plus with gps £142,000 3 year warranty deal. 4220 field pro without gps but with 3 year warranty £118,000. You should get a 722 price really though as the 724 is more hp than the fastrac.
- Location
- Bedfordshire
Fastrac come down a bit then. I thought they were £140k new.
kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
You run Deere's but the choice is between Fendt and JCB?
Would it not be better to stick with Deere to keep the fleet the same with all the GPS stuff etc. (I know nothing about gps so maybe they're all interchangeable )
Sorry but I doubt that’s true. No manufacturer designs a machine around one prime mover. You may find the dealer trying to sell you the prime mover say that! I am happy to be proved wrong. I have at my disposal a photo of our machines on every couloir of tractor!
A fastest at 65kph is travelling 36% faster on the road. So braking is more, heat is more, camber is more..... I don’t get your point
I fear your negotiating power may be weekend by this thread....
Do you always pay the quoted price? I doubt it very much! No one else does!
Definitely buy a Fendt and I would suggest a 800 or 900, as road speed on both are 65kph. If you have any hills then a 724, despite the Hp, is no good at pulling/grip. Turning circle on the Fendt's is far superior to a 4ws Fastrac. Folk may comment about the trend of Fendt's and Horsch trailed sprayers but there is a reason in that the combination basically behave in the same way as a SP. One screen, one joystick, one guidance/section control and quite simply a sprayer that is better than any other on the market for actual spraying.
I’m sure it was Michael horsch who actually said this to me but I may be wrong . @Tom H may know?
Speedstar
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- Location
- Scottish Borders
our fastrac was on 34" rims and the tyre's were 540- 34 and 2500 hours is all you got out of them, were the 939 is on 710 -42 and has over 5000 hours on it and are still 60% both do 65kph on the road
- Location
- The North
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Do you sell the over rated green things by any chance?
- Location
- Bedfordshire
Most ridiculous comment of the week.
Mantas Liep
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6230R/6250R would be the best bet for Leeb 8GS, because longer wheelbase and the bigger 160l/min@1600 rpm hydro pump when comparing with 6215R. With Gen4 display, command arm joystick it would behave the same like 724 from technology side.
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
Think he may be basing it on the brochure specs..... where JCB quote 9.8m and Fendt quote 5.5m.
Difference is the JCB is the external and the Fendt is the internal unless it can turn in it’s own length?
The Fendt is also on tow crops to achieve that, the JCB is on its normal tyres.
our last sold 724 cost us under £8/hr in depreciation
in 5000hrs it had a couple of small repairs at no more than £1000 ish a time plus routine servicing
not an expensive new tractor really and purchase well above it’s weight, i’m not sure a fastrac on 30” wheels would pull a 12 m drill ?
i wish jcb would build a 4000 that could run 38 710’s - that would be a brilliant machine for drilling and spraying
in 5000hrs it had a couple of small repairs at no more than £1000 ish a time plus routine servicing
not an expensive new tractor really and purchase well above it’s weight, i’m not sure a fastrac on 30” wheels would pull a 12 m drill ?
i wish jcb would build a 4000 that could run 38 710’s - that would be a brilliant machine for drilling and spraying
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That is the point, what use is 235hp tractor on 540 30" wheels all year round, might as well buy a self propelled sprayer. I am not sure why people like to bash Fendt's. The reason why JCB don't put 38" 710's on 4ws steer Fastrac is that it would make the turning circle worse than a 724, 828.
Also the whole point of buying a trailed sprayer is to make wider use of another power unit and in my opinion it needs to be more than 4 weeks of pulling grain trailers at harvest. I believe the OP is asking about a choice in tractors with respect to towing a trailed Horsch. It its worth remembering that a Horsch 6GS weighs approx 6t empty, well over 14t when full of liquid fert and water in the clean water tank. The tyres on a large trailed Horsch are huge and can now be specced with Adaptive tyre pressure control, thus the sprayer itself does not make much mess. The tractor pulling it can make a proper mess, especially when soil conditions are wet (early N application to OSR or BYDV spraying etc). If you have banks like we have then a tractor on 30inch 540's is not only useless but dangerous. I do appreciate Suffolk and other parts of the country are much flatter but none of us are immune from wet autumns and winters.
We have two Fendt's, 724 and 939 with Vario-grip, they are very versatile and both go on the sprayer when required, it is a plug and play due to the joystick, though JD catching up. When conditions are wet/difficult we often use the 939 as the tyres cause less compaction and no loss of traction. Tyres are hugely important and it is rubber on the ground that prevents ruts not necessarily weight of the machine. In fact we have some fields that a ballasted 724 will not go up with the sprayer in any conditions wet or dry.
Personally I think an 828 on 710's with Vario-grip is the perfect tractor for a 6GS. I appreciate many will get away with less but there is a reason why Bateman put a 275hp engine in an RB55, which weighs less than 10t and has a 5000lt tank. Does anyone know what the turning circle of a 4WS Fastrac would be on 710's?
I would not buy a 939 for spraying, but I need a 300hp plus tractor for cultivations and baling. I also need a high tech smaller tractor that can be used for pulling a 6m direct drill, spraying, pulling a Carrier, using a loader for clearing straw, delivering straw and many other jobs. The fact that both can be used on a sprayer without any noticeable difference in crop damage due to excellent turning circles on proper tyres is a massive bonus. To me it makes no sense to buy a 235hp tractor with 4WS that is stuck on 540's.