The "I`ve got it" thread...

JCMaloney

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In other news.............. our Trust have just offered all the staff anti-body testing.

Across 12,500 folk that will give a snapshot of how many folk have had it,some without knowing it, and numbers to calculate infection across the wider population.

Well that was quick.
Bloods taken Sunday.
Result on the system Tuesday.

I have Sars-CoV-2 antibodies! :D
Which is the second time I`ve been tested and confirmed.
 

JCMaloney

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LE9 2JG
Is it true that under who guidelines we are not doing autopsy’s on people that are suspected to of died from covid?

Depends on the case and circumstances of death, I can only say what has changed locally.

The majority of our Covid deaths are hospital certified after tests so wouldn`t require an autopsy unless requested by the certifying doctor.

We do a lot of non-invasive (MRI Scanned) autopsy`s they are still going ahead.

Routine autopsies are continuing, those are Coroner referrals, sudden deaths/suicides etc.

The mortuary are working under very stringent guidelines, primarily because any deceased from the community setting may have it, so all are treated as though they have. Social distancing for the staff, full PPE, air extraction for any Aerosol Generating Procedures`s such as removal of pacemakers etc.

There is whole section of guidance on
www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-for-care-of-the-deceased/

We have stopped doing all vitreous humor toxicology analysis as the sample is currently considered unsafe to use.
 

turbo

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lincs
Depends on the case and circumstances of death, I can only say what has changed locally.

The majority of our Covid deaths are hospital certified after tests so wouldn`t require an autopsy unless requested by the certifying doctor.

We do a lot of non-invasive (MRI Scanned) autopsy`s they are still going ahead.

Routine autopsies are continuing, those are Coroner referrals, sudden deaths/suicides etc.

The mortuary are working under very stringent guidelines, primarily because any deceased from the community setting may have it, so all are treated as though they have. Social distancing for the staff, full PPE, air extraction for any Aerosol Generating Procedures`s such as removal of pacemakers etc.

There is whole section of guidance on
www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-guidance-for-care-of-the-deceased/

We have stopped doing all vitreous humor toxicology analysis as the sample is currently considered unsafe to use.
Thanks for that, I was only asking because a friend who lives in Italy had said they have done some autopsies over there and they don’t think it’s a virus as such more a bacteria that is causing the blood to thicken and not be able to get the oxygen in your blood around your body and that’s why ventilators haven’t really worked. I thought you would be the one to ask as you don’t have an agenda and you cannot believe most of what you are told or read about it!
 

Chae1

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Aberdeenshire
Thanks for that, I was only asking because a friend who lives in Italy had said they have done some autopsies over there and they don’t think it’s a virus as such more a bacteria that is causing the blood to thicken and not be able to get the oxygen in your blood around your body and that’s why ventilators haven’t really worked. I thought you would be the one to ask as you don’t have an agenda and you cannot believe most of what you are told or read about it!
The blood thickening part interests me. I had a nasty bout of what I thought was the flu in January, followed by a stroke. I had 2, but didn't know what was going on when I had first one and went back to work next day. It was second one that did damage. First one was during the night.

If I could find out if I had covid I could hopefully come off blood thinning drugs. I don't like taking them.
 
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turbo

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The blood thickening part interests me. I had a nasty bout of what I thought was the flu in January, followed by a stroke. I had 2, but didn't know what was going on when I had first one and went back to work next day. It was second one that did damage. First one was during the night.

If I could find out if I had covid I could hopefully come off blood thinning drugs. I don't like taking them.
I have a mate who had just the same as you did at about the same time that’s what made me ask our resident medical expert the question because I know he will answer the question Truthfully if he knows
 

JCMaloney

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I have a mate who had just the same as you did at about the same time that’s what made me ask our resident medical expert the question because I know he will answer the question Truthfully if he knows

I`m no expert!! Just a number crunching pen pusher who gets to read lots of interesting stuff. :D :geek:
The only paper I can find regarding hematology and Covid-19 (not reviewed or tested as yet) is this one. http://www.sah.org.ar/pdf/covid-19/ajh.25829.pdf
 

Muck Spreader

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Thanks for that, I was only asking because a friend who lives in Italy had said they have done some autopsies over there and they don’t think it’s a virus as such more a bacteria that is causing the blood to thicken and not be able to get the oxygen in your blood around your body and that’s why ventilators haven’t really worked. I thought you would be the one to ask as you don’t have an agenda and you cannot believe most of what you are told or read about it!

From what I gather it is a genuine problem with Covid ICU patients getting blood clots in the brain and heart. The French have been giving highish doses of blood thinners routinely Covid ICU patients for the last couple of months, but that brings it's own risks. I think it is seen as being due to an autoimmune response rather than anything else , but they don't exactly know for certain.
 
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yes, I've seen a few articles in the last week about it being a vascular issue with damage to the endothelial cells in the blood vessels and an increase in leakage and clotting a major problem and contributor to the hypoxia. Also a reason why such a poor prognosis for those with existing cardiovascular or diabetes issues.

Explains why, with Raynauds, blood vessels already compromised by too much collagen, a weakened immune system due to immunosuppresive medication and a high pre-existing risk of lung fibrosis, I was told by rheumatologist to upgrade from self isolating to shielding! :rolleyes:
 

JCMaloney

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LE9 2JG
As at midnight on 31 May 2020

Patients currently being treated for COVID-19: 122
Total patients treated for COVID-19 who have been discharged: 782
Total confirmed and nationally announced deaths positive for COVID-19: 347

Still too many folk coming in.
Expecting an increase in cases.
The "tail" is starting to look more like a series of speed bumps than a decreasing line.

It is time for the Government to pull on the big boy pants, utilise the remaining furlough & support scheme time, and to tell folk to stay the feck at home.

Numbers as of midnight June 2nd.

Patients currently being treated for COVID-19: 109
Total patients treated for COVID-19 who have been discharged: 797
Total confirmed and nationally announced deaths positive for COVID-19: 357

Still a persistent number of presentations and the "tail" is tapering very,very slowly
 

Spartacus

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Numbers as of midnight June 2nd.

Patients currently being treated for COVID-19: 109
Total patients treated for COVID-19 who have been discharged: 797
Total confirmed and nationally announced deaths positive for COVID-19: 357

Still a persistent number of presentations and the "tail" is tapering very,very slowly
Are the cases that keep coming in from general population that have not been in a hospital/care home setting? Just wonder if it's still knocking about as much "out in the open" so to speak or if it's more in the places you would expect the highest infection rate?
 

Highland Mule

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Are the cases that keep coming in from general population that have not been in a hospital/care home setting? Just wonder if it's still knocking about as much "out in the open" so to speak or if it's more in the places you would expect the highest infection rate?

The news yesterday (think it was Scotland specific and from Nicola's presentation, but not sure) was that cases in nursing homes was falling much faster then in the wider environment.
 

JCMaloney

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Are the cases that keep coming in from general population that have not been in a hospital/care home setting? Just wonder if it's still knocking about as much "out in the open" so to speak or if it's more in the places you would expect the highest infection rate?

Most of the local care homes are very well controlled both in terms of managing day to day life and outbreaks or symptomatic staff/patients. When hospitals stopped discharging untested patients into care homes that pretty much fixed their problems.
We are still receiving a mix of patients but they are almost all "Something" + Covid.
 

Spartacus

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Most of the local care homes are very well controlled both in terms of managing day to day life and outbreaks or symptomatic staff/patients. When hospitals stopped discharging untested patients into care homes that pretty much fixed their problems.
We are still receiving a mix of patients but they are almost all "Something" + Covid.
So they are coming in with other issues and are tested for covid-19 and have it?
 

JCMaloney

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So they are coming in with other issues and are tested for covid-19 and have it?

Again a bit of both.
Some are poorly enough at home with something else that needs an ambulance, they get Covid triaged at hospital and end up admitted with something like "diabetic episode, Covid positive. "
Then they stay in, the diabetic aspect is resolved, hopefully they don`t deteriorate, test negative and leave.
Some are coming in purely with Covid symptoms that has made them poorly enough for an ambulance/admission through A&E.
 

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