Right then. It's fodder rape time. :(

exmoor dave · Jun 26, 2020

Does the rotting down sprayed off grass hinder brassica seedlings?

What should the interval be between spraying off pasture and drilling kale/ hybrid?

ploughman1963 · Jun 26, 2020

exmoor dave said:
Does the rotting down sprayed off grass hinder brassica seedlings?

What should the interval be between spraying off pasture and drilling kale/ hybrid?

I treat them the same - just drilled some brassicas for ourselves into a very old sward that was sprayed off - we couldnt get to drill straight away (7 days) so I put a load of lime pellets down the spout - germinating within 3 days.

Derrick Hughes · Jun 26, 2020

exmoor dave said:
Does the rotting down sprayed off grass hinder brassica seedlings?

What should the interval be between spraying off pasture and drilling kale/ hybrid?

No, you can spray 3 days after drilling if you like as long as seeds ain't growing

ploughman1963 · Jun 26, 2020

Thats a very definite answer from someone who says he is learning

neilo · Jun 26, 2020

Derrick Hughes said:
No, you can spray 3 days after drilling if you like as long as seeds ain't growing

Risky gamble imo. I sprayed off a grass field last Saturday and drilled a ryegrass/crimson clover mix into warm, damp soil (with my Simtech) on Sunday. The Crimson clover had chitted on Monday and the grass is up in places too today.?

If I’d waited until after drilling until I’d sprayed, I wouldn’t have got on as it was too windy for the next two days, then the seeds were already up enough to have been wiped out.

Derrick Hughes · Jun 26, 2020

ploughman1963 said:
Thats a very definite answer from someone who says he is learning

A definitive answers draws out a definitive response [emoji1]
Did not mean to come over as a young no all . Thanks for the tip on slug pellets . They not cheap at £5/acre
But I was firmly told that gas would not effect turnips. But also the approach should be to get the grass off before drilling
I asked him about your drilling straight away and he said in theory your right . But he would not recommend anyone to drill into those conditions
I'm wondering if 2 ton of ground limestone would have the same effect as your prills ,spread on top

hally · Jun 26, 2020

Just off on a tangent any agronomists on here, customer sent me a picture of this weed in his reseed, any idea what it is?

90hp farming · Jun 26, 2020

hally said:
Just off on a tangent any agronomists on here, customer sent me a picture of this weed in his reseed, any idea what it is?View attachment 890186

Orache ? (ps. I m not an agronomist)

Derrick Hughes · Jun 26, 2020

Looks like fat hen ,but I ain't no expert

hally · Jun 26, 2020

Derrick Hughes said:
Looks like fat hen ,but I ain't no expert

Yeah that was my thoughts but I’m no weed expert unless growing them qualifies

som farmer · Jun 26, 2020

Derrick Hughes said:
Looks like fat hen ,but I ain't no expert

its fathen, and I am an expert at growing it, whenever we have a thin patch, or reseed, the f-ing stuff comes up, if it comes up in the rape, we can get the stuff up to 6ft tall, even though sprayed, this years kill, has been poor, just to dry.

Derrick Hughes · Jun 26, 2020

som farmer said:
its fathen, and I am an expert at growing it, whenever we have a thin patch, or reseed, the f-ing stuff comes up, if it comes up in the rape, we can get the stuff up to 6ft tall, even though sprayed, this years kill, has been poor, just to dry.

Two toppings usually gets rid .

som farmer · Jun 26, 2020

Derrick Hughes said:
Two toppings usually gets rid .

quite agree, just a bugger in forage crops.

hally · Jun 26, 2020

ill tell him to get the strimmer out?

Derrick Hughes · Jun 26, 2020

hally said:
ill tell him to get the strimmer out?

We strimmed 20 acres of swede in drills. Had Yellow weed in as well , pre em would not touch yellow weed

Devil's advocate · Jun 26, 2020

Derrick Hughes said:
We strimmed 20 acres of swede in drills. Had Yellow weed in as well , pre em would not touch yellow weed

ollie989898 · Jun 26, 2020

It's orache I would say, but you can't ever really tell if it's just orache or just fathen, seems to be a variety of biotypes where they look very very similar, like they have hybridised or something. Headland Polo will usually fold them up if you spray them in new leys early enough.

ollie989898 · Jun 26, 2020

neilo said:
Risky gamble imo. I sprayed off a grass field last Saturday and drilled a ryegrass/crimson clover mix into warm, damp soil (with my Simtech) on Sunday. The Crimson clover had chitted on Monday and the grass is up in places too today.?

If I’d waited until after drilling until I’d sprayed, I wouldn’t have got on as it was too windy for the next two days, then the seeds were already up enough to have been wiped out.

I would be very wary doing that as well. Safer with cereals/maize as there is more soil depth involved.

neilo · Jun 27, 2020

som farmer said:
quite agree, just a bugger in forage crops.

Actually, it is a forage crop, supposedly brought over by the Romans as such. A friend baled a new ley that was full of it a few years ago and the bales got tested. I forget the ME but remember it was high, but the CP was 28%. Absolute rocket fuel when fed to his housed sheep, who just left a pile of stalks to clean up.

Maybe you, and all of us, are missing a trick?

Devil's advocate · Jun 27, 2020

ollie989898 said:
It's orache I would say, but you can't ever really tell if it's just orache or just fathen, seems to be a variety of biotypes where they look very very similar, like they have hybridised or something. Headland Polo will usually fold them up if you spray them in new leys early enough.

Am I the only one who thought it was speedwell?

Right then. It's fodder rape time. :(

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