Overhanging trees and lack of hedgetrimming

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
All done by contractors.
How do the council measure how much to trim back? If you lightly trim you can cover twice as much and make more profit with less wear and tear. That's better tthan inefficiencies of councils employing own staff somehow?
Hedges should grow no further out than the roadside edge and surely a height restriction should be standard for low tree branches. I see bark missing from trees and damaged hgv's all the time. I used to haul round bales three high but wouldnt be able to now
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Friend of mine did just this, sick of knocking his mirrors off thanks to a good lifer who refused to have his hedges cut back. Went in 4 o clock on a summers morning and knocked it back into shape very hard .
The owner was slightly unamused , bit late though.
 

Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Surely it’s a health and safety issue? If an accident is due to not gritting or not trimming verges etc council liable? We kept being told to do/not do things in the name of health and safety and in this case council’s have obligations?
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
I've twice been contacted by the council to trim back over grown hedges, if not donr in a given time they will do it and send me the bill . I believe it's the owners responsibility if it's much higher than the grass that the council trim . It's the owners you need to get at . If not report the offending hedge to the council and they should contact the owner
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
All done by contractors.
That's better than inefficiencies of councils employing own staff somehow?
Our council has found a £3m hole in the roads budget. Transerv Scotland had a 5 year maintenance contract, they then sub-contracted the work to DG First who are the commercial arm of the council. DG First then sub-contracted to others.
End of the day council may get the bill from a company who sub-contracted to a company which sub-contracted to other companies, all of them taking a cut.
To fill in a pothole someone goes out with a van yellow spray and a laptop to take photos. Work out to tender, go back to respray the holes, work done then I presume more photos to show work is done.
Old days, Tam and Jock got a load of tar and a wee roller and sent up various back roads to fill in all the holes they could find.

But that was inefficient
 

1594mac

Member
Location
Northern Ireland
Well a few years ago I was at my parents when this guy in a high vis coat called to the house, he was greeted at the front door by my elderly parents, he proceeded to id himself as a employee of the Dept of Environment, I could hear the conversation which was about a tree at the roadside, he informed them it was their duty to have the tree trimmed back to allow the street light to work and that it was damaging passing HGVs, he then informed them that if it wasn't done by the end of Feb they would be dealt with by Court action! I then went out and spoke with him, asked him to show me what the issue was with the tree. Stated the tree was blocking the light and it was a safety issue as it was damaging passing HGVs. This street light was over a footpath. I cant say I was very pleased with him threatening my parents with court so I asked him what the wanted done? He wanted the couple of branches cut level with the top of the street light, I asked him to point out damage to the tree which has been caused by vehicle strikes he couldn't! I then asked why it had to be cut by Feb as was it not an exemption to cut at the roadside to maintain safety?? Anyhow his reply was I don't know I'm only doing me job!! :banghead:
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
Old days, Tam and Jock got a load of tar and a wee roller and sent up various back roads to fill in all the holes they could find.

But that was inefficient
Trouble is Tam and Jock cost the council thousands doing peoples driveways for cash on the councils time and with the councils tarmac so were sacked!
 
Location
southwest
Global pandemic, economy crashing, millions out of work (but called furlough)

I have relatives working in social care, any money available has far higher priority than getting a few hedges trimmed back.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
A lot residents in twee villages here are only too happy to allow trees and hedges to grow over to stop those noisy farm vehicles from passing through. Stopped contracting work on other side of village for the reason I couldn’t justify the 10 mile detour to get there with combine or beet harvester. These people really are selfish twits.
 

thorpe

Member
leicestershire cc very keen on sending out orders for hedges and low branches to landowners. i dont mind if we have a problem get on and get it done, but iwish they had the same standards for roadside hedges and trees around there country parks absolute disgrace!
 
I find if you make it everyones problem thing will happen, I have a place that I have to drive along with the grain bucket up in the air and snap that branches down so as then then hang down and touch the cars as well, everyone gets on the case and it gets sorted.
 

Lazy Eric

Member
There’s a 4 mile stretch of bypass near us that the council knocked back with a hedge cutter a couple of years back, did a good job too..
A select few of the local middle class strokers, the sort with too much time on their hands , wrote to the papers, playing holy f**k about it, got more tossers onside and tried to take the council to court....
Council then said they won’t touch it again.... well done bell ends!
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
I hate this HS blame culture etc. I reckon only the main routes should be salted/gritted and communities/self responsibility should sort the rest. It might educate a few drivers in that driving like a dick actually might get you into trouble which is only caused by themselves.

same goes for roadside hedges and nesting birds. If contractors, farmers and home owners didn't get so frightened/blackmailed by the greenies I'm sure the nations roads would look better and be far safer. Surely the roadside hedges are such a small proportion that mashing a few nests shouldn't have too much of an impact considering the number of cats etc coming from peoples homes.
 

thorpe

Member
I hate this HS blame culture etc. I reckon only the main routes should be salted/gritted and communities/self responsibility should sort the rest. It might educate a few drivers in that driving like a dick actually might get you into trouble which is only caused by themselves.

same goes for roadside hedges and nesting birds. If contractors, farmers and home owners didn't get so frightened/blackmailed by the greenies I'm sure the nations roads would look better and be far safer. Surely the roadside hedges are such a small proportion that mashing a few nests shouldn't have too much of an impact considering the number of cats etc coming from peoples homes.
always used to clear the snow in our village i woudnt do it now , to much risk + you woudnt get athank you they think its part of the service.
 

Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
Where are all these council owned hedges? There’s plenty of farmers not cutting road side hedges round here.

Its not that the hedges are owned by the council (largely they aren't), its that they (as the relevant highway authority) are legally responsible for ensuring the road is clear to all public traffic. There is absolutely no reason why councils could not have a rapid system of response to complaints about overhanging vegetation - pretty much all land ownership details are available now via the Land Registry, so it would be simple to determine who the owners are, send out a letter demanding the offending area be cut back at the owners expense as a first step, if they receive a second complaint then they could instruct a contractor to do the work, and bill the landowner. If the landowner refuses to pay just stick them on the list of people the council legal team are chasing for money, they have whole departments dealing with council tax and rent arrears.

They have all the relevant legal powers, they just can't be arsed to use them.
 

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