Jury service

Jack Russell · Jun 28, 2020

Afternoon
Just had a key member of staff call to say he had been requested for jury service this august for 2 weeks. I haven’t seen the letter yet but thought I’d ask here for some collective wisdom. I’m assuming we can write a letter for him to say he can’t be away from his job at a peak time of the year ? He definitely doesn’t want to be away from the job either.

Out of interest if a member of staff is off on jury service is that as holiday or unpaid leave?

cheers

teslacoils · Jun 28, 2020

Iirc jury service does not need paying as staff can claim loss of earnings from govt. But it's not holiday.

Lincs Lass · Jun 28, 2020

Wrong time of year for any member of staff to be away for any reason ,,He is required for harvest ,,are you short staffed already ,you normally get college or migrant workers in for that period but they cant come because of CV19,,,There must a stack of reasons why he cant be off work .

ACEngineering · Jun 28, 2020

Jack Russell said:
Afternoon
Just had a key member of staff call to say he had been requested for jury service this august for 2 weeks. I haven’t seen the letter yet but thought I’d ask here for some collective wisdom. I’m assuming we can write a letter for him to say he can’t be away from his job at a peak time of the year ? He definitely doesn’t want to be away from the job either.

Out of interest if a member of staff is off on jury service is that as holiday or unpaid leave?

cheers

Say he's a jehovah's witness wont need to do it then?

Rob Holmes · Jun 28, 2020

I got called up a couple of years ago at harvest time, told them i couldnt do that time as i was doing harvest by myself (white lie) and would do another appointment in the year, got a letter back a couple of weeks later to say ive been taken off the list

76masseyman · Jun 28, 2020

Jack Russell said:
Afternoon
Just had a key member of staff call to say he had been requested for jury service this august for 2 weeks. I haven’t seen the letter yet but thought I’d ask here for some collective wisdom. I’m assuming we can write a letter for him to say he can’t be away from his job at a peak time of the year ? He definitely doesn’t want to be away from the job either.

Out of interest if a member of staff is off on jury service is that as holiday or unpaid leave?

cheers

Tell him to inform them, one week before he’s due, that he has a temperature and a new cough ?

kiwi pom · Jun 28, 2020

Jack Russell said:
Afternoon
Just had a key member of staff call to say he had been requested for jury service this august for 2 weeks. I haven’t seen the letter yet but thought I’d ask here for some collective wisdom. I’m assuming we can write a letter for him to say he can’t be away from his job at a peak time of the year ? He definitely doesn’t want to be away from the job either.

Out of interest if a member of staff is off on jury service is that as holiday or unpaid leave?

cheers

You can write a letter for him. I don't think that means he'll automatically be excused though.
Don't know how much money you can claim there but if you do it here and have a reasonable job you're certainly out of pocket for doing it although some companies will still pay you.
I hope you wont make him use his annual leave if he has to do it, not even sure you can?

traineefarmer · Jun 28, 2020

As far as I'm aware, it's unpaid leave as the person called can claim for loss of earnings. I also believe that as an employer you have no right to deny their call to service, it is up to them to oppose it and then you can offer a letter of support.

wellingtonfarmer · Jun 28, 2020

Tell him to go and then say “hi mate” to the defendant as he walks in

kiwi pom · Jun 28, 2020

I know someone that completely ignored the letter as it wasn't recorded delivery, when the reminder came the day before the court date they rang up playing hell that they'd been given no notice, why wasn't a letter sent earlier etc.
Got away with it and never been called again.

TripleSix · Jun 28, 2020

You can have it deferred.

puppet · Jun 28, 2020

76masseyman said:
Tell him to inform them, one week before he’s due, that he has a temperature and a new cough ?

So he stays at home and you , as a close work colleague, have to quarantine for 2 weeks.
Not helping the harvest, better to hope the defendant pleads guilty on day 2

Barleymow · Jun 29, 2020

He looks after the livestock, I've been called up twice but brcause of my pigs was excused

paul&mandy · Jun 29, 2020

With all the people on furlough and there asking an agricultural worker in the middle of harvest....
I've said before, I got called up the day we were due to start lambing. Yes you can defer it but only once. I wasn't sure a good time of year to be called again and couldnt change if it didnt work with say a late harvest or the only dry spell for hay or moving groups of sheep on keep over the winter.
Im not sure reasons for being excused on an arable farm but we got sheep and had a letter back apologising and had my name taken off the list.
Possibly saying your a key worker?
Again before I get shot down. If you have a quite time to defer to, do it.

traineefarmer · Jun 29, 2020

paul&mandy said:
With all the people on furlough and there asking an agricultural worker in the middle of harvest....
I've said before, I got called up the day we were due to start lambing. Yes you can defer it but only once. I wasn't sure a good time of year to be called again and couldnt change if it didnt work with say a late harvest or the only dry spell for hay or moving groups of sheep on keep over the winter.
Im not sure reasons for being excused on an arable farm but we got sheep and had a letter back apologising and had my name taken off the list.
Possibly saying your a key worker?
Again before I get shot down. If you have a quite time to defer to, do it.

Good point. At the moment, the words "key worker " should be all the argument necessary.

nick... · Jun 29, 2020

Neighbouring farmer got called up a few years back and could not get out of it I beleive.think it was 4/6 weeks long too
Nick...

holywell farmer · Jun 29, 2020

kiwi pom said:
I know someone that completely ignored the letter as it wasn't recorded delivery, when the reminder came the day before the court date they rang up playing hell that they'd been given no notice, why wasn't a letter sent earlier etc.
Got away with it and never been called again.

Blimey, seems people generally aren't keen on jury service

Bloders · Jun 29, 2020

Im always amazed by the people putting videos of their machines on youtube/facebook etc with missing guard.
Great example is a faulty PTO guard. And then they get grumpy when criticised for it.

Y Fan Wen · Jun 29, 2020

Mrs Y got called and sat on an assault case. Half way into the first day someone said something inadmissible and the jury was discharged. Dad was called and was just setting out on his bike, no car in those days, when the postman arrived with the letter cancelling it. He would have had to bike 2 miles and then catch the bus for 10 miles so it was a case of jit.
I've never been called and I'm over age now.

Lazy Sod · Jun 29, 2020

I know someone who is bipolar. When called for jury service, he told them of his condition and was excused for life.

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