Why is modern machinery so flipping unreliable?!

glasshouse · Jul 2, 2020

My experience of nh brakes summed up the penny pinching accountants at nh.
The brakes on my tm155 failed at about 1000 hrs even though it never towed a trailer, never had brake issues on other tractors.
Dealer wasnt interested
£2000 bill
Happened again at 2000 hrs
So i made enquiries and found nh were fitting the cheapest shittiest discs, but charging top dollar
Plus, they were only wearing on one side.
So i got it stripped at home and fitted kevlar discs from sparex, yet still less than nh rubbish
That sorted it

Farmer Roy · Jul 3, 2020

glasshouse said:
How is that holding air?
I will send you one off my stockpile

it’s tubeless & it has a 2 tonne airseeder sitting on it as well ( it’s one of the front tyres, but one of the rears is similar )

I’m just waiting for it to let go . . .

Farmer Roy · Jul 3, 2020

R J said:
how many hours on that one ?

I’m not entirely sure, as we had a software update at some point which made the clock go back to zero & no one thought to write down the hours ( no one knew the clock would zero itself ), but I think it’s about 9000 hrs. 12 years old & never seen the inside of a shed

holywell farmer · Jul 3, 2020

Farmer Roy said:
it’s tubeless & it has a 2 tonne airseeder sitting on it as well ( it’s one of the front tyres, but one of the rears is similar )

I’m just waiting for it to let go . . .

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Looks very rugged terrain there.

D14 · Jul 3, 2020

Dan Powell said:
It gets to about 3000 hours and hey presto, air con failures, ad-blue faults, pipes leaking, going into limp mode for no good reason and all costs a fortune to fix.

I'm fed up with it frankly. I want to go back to a John Deere 10 series before the build quality of everything fell off a cliff and prices went through the ceiling....

I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels like this on a regular basis...

Its why so many are buying older used pre adble etc and then instead of running them hard, run multiples of them to reduce the workload. We have done it and I see so many around me doing it. New tractor sales around here have been extremely poor the last 2 years. We are buying a used and when its paid off, instead of swapping it for something newer, we keep it and then buy another used one, building up the fleet and drastically reducing the hours per machine. We will be good for 20 + years soon and have no ambition to buy anything new either. You do not need new equipment to farm any amount of acres. All you are doing buying new is greasing the palms of the manufacturers and middle men.

Farmer Roy · Jul 4, 2020

holywell farmer said:
Looks very rugged terrain there.

Not really, it’s actually very flat, soft black soil, with sprayed out ground-cover on it, which is probably why it looks “untidy” to UK eyes . The trees are just on the edge of the plain, but that’s not tractor driving country.

graham99 · Jul 4, 2020

gone up the hill said:
Doesn't matter what colour/ make it is every tractor/ machine etc will break down sooner or later unless you keep it in the shed 24/7 365 days of the year and never use it..

The point of the OP is that there is getting far too many sensors etc on all makes of machinery and they are making all makes less reliable the more and more sensors etc are added to machines.

it might need a soft whare update just sitting in a shed

Yale · Jul 4, 2020

holywell farmer said:
Looks very rugged terrain there.

Farmer Roy said:
Not really, it’s actually very flat, soft black soil, with sprayed out ground-cover on it, which is probably why it looks “untidy” to UK eyes . The trees are just on the edge of the plain, but that’s not tractor driving country.
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Pfft,look at the rubbish and weeds.....

.....need to get the plough out.....

Farmer Roy · Jul 4, 2020

Haha - that “rubbish & weeds” was performing a very valuable function, thank you.
That’s part of knowing how to deal with drought

glasshouse · Jul 4, 2020

Farmer Roy said:
Not really, it’s actually very flat, soft black soil, with sprayed out ground-cover on it, which is probably why it looks “untidy” to UK eyes . The trees are just on the edge of the plain, but that’s not tractor driving country.
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I like how the wheat is planted in the bottom of the ridge to gather moisture.
We would have to plant it on the top to prevent waterlogging

Farmer Roy · Jul 4, 2020

glasshouse said:
I like how the wheat is planted in the bottom of the ridge to gather moisture.
We would have to plant it on the top to prevent waterlogging

It is the depression left from the press wheel / closing wheel that closes the furrow & ensures good seed / soil contact & it helps to capture the dew also, as well as helping to protect the young plants

Farmer Roy · Jul 8, 2020

You probably don’t class a NH T8040 as modern ( even if I do ), but f**k me, I’ve owned it since new & the last couple of years it’s given me more grief than every tractor I’ve owned previously, combined . . .
It blew a seal on a steering ram ( I am 54 & have NEVER had that happen on any machine & I have been around large scale arable farming my whole working life ), but the pin attaching it to the front axle is seized in & impossible to get out. Worn out as all f**k on the end of the ram as well ( which does play havoc with the auto steer at times ) but no grease nipple or anything on it. A sh!t of a design

but again - it is a mechanical problem, not electrical or software

Why is modern machinery so flipping unreliable?!

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