Sugar Beet 2020

robbie · Jul 10, 2020

6 rows of Gaugan drilled amongst cantona.
You can see a lot clearer to the line when standing in the field the gaugan have more yellowing but also they established a bigger more dense canopy quicker and as a result theres 6 clean rows amongst 18 with rubbish.

I think the speed of canopy development must have something to do with how aphids move within the crop.

Theyve only had one go of biscaya.

robbie · Jul 10, 2020

Honest john said:
We should all start writing to our MP’s again on this with photos of crops & Chems used & costing.
After all we are now OUT of EU or will be by the next crop.
Also we have a new man at the head of DEFRA.
Come on get it done next week before we get into Harvest mode.

What we really need is a national union type organisation which has a dedicated sugar board who could work and lobby on the beet growers behalf.

I think if we had such an organisation and they took a levy off each grower for every ton they produced it would work really well. Now how could we go about getting such a thing in place[emoji848]

Not only could they lobby government about things like the lost of chems but they could also negotiate the beet price for growers, just imagine a sugar union working with the growers interests at heart we would have to be careful thought that this union doesnt end up in the pocket of BS but I'm sure that would never happen.[emoji134]‍

shakerator · Jul 10, 2020

Flat 10 said:
I have fields with no treatment, 1x Biscaya and Biscaya fb teppeki. Worst virus probably in the 1x Biscaya.

much difference between the untreated and twice treated ?

Flat 10 · Jul 10, 2020

shakerator said:
much difference between the untreated and twice treated ?

No.

DrWazzock · Jul 10, 2020

Flat 10 said:
No.

Makes you wonder. Aphids flying in all the time. One shot insecticides with very little persistence. Beneficials clobbered. Was it ever going to work? I didn’t spray any insecticide last year and still made my quota. Lower pressure and first year after coating though. This year despite leaf colour, roots look bigger than they were last year at this time. The returns will be the judge and I don’t think they will be too bad.

Mixedupfarmer · Jul 10, 2020

robbie said:
What we really need is a national union type organisation which has a dedicated sugar board who could work and lobby on the beet growers behalf.

I think if we had such an organisation and they took a levy off each grower for every ton they produced it would work really well. Now how could we go about getting such a thing in place[emoji848]

Not only could they lobby government about things like the lost of chems but they could also negotiate the beet price for growers, just imagine a sugar union working with the growers interests at heart we would have to be careful thought that this union doesnt end up in the pocket of BS but I'm sure that would never happen.[emoji134]‍♂

They could also negotiate a price share bonus that regularly paid out to growers above a realistic base sugar price or link it to wheat price above a certain realistic level with no upper limit

. Could be a really profitable crop!

Hindsight · Jul 10, 2020

Mixedupfarmer said:
They could also negotiate a price share bonus that regularly paid out to growers above a realistic base sugar price or link it to wheat price above a certain realistic level with no upper limit . Could be a really profitable crop!

A reason for beet growers to boycott trading with Frontier Agriculture. After all BS and Frontier are from the same stable. Just an idle thought to toss in.

Devil's advocate · Jul 10, 2020

Hindsight said:
A reason for beet growers to boycott trading with Frontier Agriculture. After all BS and Frontier are from the same stable. Just an idle thought to toss in.

Not a beet grower.

But share your pain with the loss of seed dressing as a brassica grower.

Can pressure be put onVictoria Atkin MP she is married to the MD of British Sugar. A disgrace that the otherwise lovely Victoria Atkin voted for the agriculture bill, selling British agriculture down the river to please Trump.

Hindsight · Jul 10, 2020

Devil's advocate said:
Not a beet grower.

But share your pain with the loss of seed dressing as a brassica grower.

Can pressure be put onVictoria Atkin MP she is married to the MD of British Sugar. A disgrace that the otherwise lovely Victoria Atkin voted for the agriculture bill, selling British agriculture down the river to please Trump.

I did not know that - everyday is a school day. My comment was playing devils advocate!! And what did you expect her to vote. The Trump trade deal is crucial. UK agriculture will just have to get on with the result - lump it or loath it. After all the government is offering a pay out to landowners and farmers. Join stewardship and drwaw the sub for a few more years. Brutal but the reality I fear

teslacoils · Jul 11, 2020

Unfortunately, Googled "Victoria Atkins removes dressing" produced no results.

Bill Turtle · Jul 15, 2020

Anyone else seeing Beet Mosaic Virus?
I seem to have varying amounts of it in my fields as well as smaller areas of Yellows.
I think it may relate to how badly the herbicide stressed the crop in the dry weather.

spin cycle · Jul 15, 2020

anyone planning to use opera fungicide?

robbie · Jul 15, 2020

I tend to favour escalta for the first fungicide as I feel the trifloxyistrobe is stronger but will happily use opera for the 2nd although I may well use opera both times as it's a good bit cheaper than escalta.

Is anyone going through anytime soon with fungicide???? I want to put some MN and bittersaltz on but I'll wait another week or so and combine it with the fungicide.

Flat 10 · Jul 15, 2020

robbie said:
I tend to favour escalta for the first fungicide as I feel the trifloxyistrobe is stronger but will happily use opera for the 2nd although I may well use opera both times as it's a good bit cheaper than escalta.

Is anyone going through anytime soon with fungicide???? I want to put some MN and bittersaltz on but I'll wait another week or so and combine it with the fungicide.

Too soon?

robbie · Jul 15, 2020

That's my thinking too but I dont know if they can wait till the end of the month for MN

Flat 10 · Jul 15, 2020

robbie said:
That's my thinking too but I dont know if they can wait till the end of the month for MN

I fancy trying some salt on mine. Anyone know a good source of dendritic? I think you are supposed to use. I would have thought pure vacuum dried would be good enough though?

robbie · Jul 15, 2020

What for weed control or crop health??

Flat 10 · Jul 15, 2020

robbie said:
What for weed control or crop health??

Both but primarily crop health

robbie · Jul 15, 2020

Interesting, after the little discussion on here a couple of weeks ago about salt I did wonder if I could fill the sprayer with ambient water from a storage tank and desolve either road salt eg the stuff you buy to put on your garden path when its frosty or even water softener salt, both are dirt cheap by the pallet. It would be no different to britta salts just more bags. The trouble is it all seems a big secret as to what this ready made salt spray is so using the right amount and knowing how much could be desolved per 1000lt is all a big mystery.

ih1455xl · Jul 15, 2020

robbie said:
Interesting, after the little discussion on here a couple of weeks ago about salt I did wonder if I could fill the sprayer with ambient water from a storage tank and desolve either road salt eg the stuff you buy to put on your garden path when its frosty or even water softener salt, both are dirt cheap by the pallet. It would be no different to britta salts just more bags. The trouble is it all seems a big secret as to what this ready made salt spray is so using the right amount and knowing how much could be desolved per 1000lt is all a big mystery.

Last year my fodder beet got swapped with fat hen so brought 1ton bag of sea salt and mixed it up in a ibc with a submersible pump and sprayed it on in 30deg heat nailed fat hen

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