boumaticboy
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What % of DF milk goes for liquid at pennybridge? Surely no advantage in high solids for that market?But it's how it's divided up thats not right. The current system underpays for fat and protein, and overpays for water!
What % of DF milk goes for liquid at pennybridge? Surely no advantage in high solids for that market?But it's how it's divided up thats not right. The current system underpays for fat and protein, and overpays for water!
You can have two contacts.What % of DF milk goes for liquid at pennybridge? Surely no advantage in high solids for that market?
Roll through the session in your spare time and correct me I may be wrongSpeaking of environmental impacts. All the milk/skim we draw to dunman has a highly polluting biproduct, carries a handling risk, and requires hefty treatment before it can be safely discharged into the adjoining burn.
Totally agree. I’m in the solids camp but how you interpret everythingOk. Short on spare time at the moment. Environmental impact of haulage is huge? Especially double handling and double haulage of skim.
Lazy will be along soon to say that his smaller cows have lower energy maintenance requirements than Holsteins, consume less feed imported from america, and have less pollution output from their back end.
It's all in how you dress it up.
Dale farm won’t change anytime soon going by the question and answer session online . If I recall correctly nick said it would take 300000 extra cows to produce on a solids payment to match current setup . Which would have a massive environmental impact he said. If I remember right .
my question only got the first line read out and totally missed the point of the question, leaving me to realise as much as I like nick and Co they completely have their own agenda of what they need and twisting it to suit themselves, but sure it’s never been any different!!
I was mad at that answer too. I think they need to be stronger sellers and set the price they need to allow suppliers a decent price instead of bending over and taking whatever. As long as df make healthy profits they all get their bonuses we can go and hoke as far as I can see.With milk prices running at levels similar to 25 years ago, how are farmers supposed to sustainably produce milk without degrading our soils ,our animals and our families? Our pricing structure is based on litres and not solids leading to a greater emphasis on volume and cow numbers with excessive strain put on natural resources and animals . Inflation has eaten any milk price surplus and as technology drives the progression of the industry to cope with the greater number of animals and yields it is the service providers that continue to coin at the expense of the producer and the resources. While this continues to be the case, how do you plan to replace suppliers in the future? Yes there have been new entrants and support measures but with the cost of investment and the commitment of debt to start I find it hard to understand how this is viable in the future?
How is it sustainable with a price similar to 25 years ago?
To which was replied, I hear this question a lot. Yields have increased and farms are more efficient and herds have increased. It’s a very tough industry and we need to stay ahead of the curve :ie expansion and cutting costs .
Great question which unfortunately got a politicians answer. If its any consolation, putting the full version up here will allow others to view things in that light and maybe the discussion on here will bring the issue back into the limelight, especially considering the people who keep an eye on this thread.With milk prices running at levels similar to 25 years ago, how are farmers supposed to sustainably produce milk without degrading our soils ,our animals and our families? Our pricing structure is based on litres and not solids leading to a greater emphasis on volume and cow numbers with excessive strain put on natural resources and animals . Inflation has eaten any milk price surplus and as technology drives the progression of the industry to cope with the greater number of animals and yields it is the service providers that continue to coin at the expense of the producer and the resources. While this continues to be the case, how do you plan to replace suppliers in the future? Yes there have been new entrants and support measures but with the cost of investment and the commitment of debt to start I find it hard to understand how this is viable in the future?
How is it sustainable with a price similar to 25 years ago?
To which was replied, I hear this question a lot. Yields have increased and farms are more efficient and herds have increased. It’s a very tough industry and we need to stay ahead of the curve :ie expansion and cutting costs .
I was at a meeting one time as they were investing in major equipment and was David Dobbin I think pointed out , investing in the coop was like us farmers changing our mf35 for a new modern tractor, it be more efficient and comfortable and improve the business, one farmer pointed out he was expected to invest with a milk price similar to 30 years ago. It fell on deaf ears . I have since never attended meetings as my family are worth more of my time .Great question which unfortunately got a politicians answer. If its any consolation, putting the full version up here will allow others to view things in that light and maybe the discussion on here will bring the issue back into the limelight, especially considering the people who keep an eye on this thread.
Very goodWith milk prices running at levels similar to 25 years ago, how are farmers supposed to sustainably produce milk without degrading our soils ,our animals and our families? Our pricing structure is based on litres and not solids leading to a greater emphasis on volume and cow numbers with excessive strain put on natural resources and animals . Inflation has eaten any milk price surplus and as technology drives the progression of the industry to cope with the greater number of animals and yields it is the service providers that continue to coin at the expense of the producer and the resources. While this continues to be the case, how do you plan to replace suppliers in the future? Yes there have been new entrants and support measures but with the cost of investment and the commitment of debt to start I find it hard to understand how this is viable in the future?
How is it sustainable with a price similar to 25 years ago?
To which was replied, I hear this question a lot. Yields have increased and farms are more efficient and herds have increased. It’s a very tough industry and we need to stay ahead of the curve :ie expansion and cutting costs .
But theyl never giv us what we want. Its just gonna average cost plus a living. Sure if we were gettin 40p litre we would stil only be gettin a living only wed have the pleasure of owning all new kitVery good
We're debating over payment structure on volume vs solids for points of pennies when it actually 10p a litre we need milk to rise
Very good
We're debating over payment structure on volume vs solids for points of pennies when it actually 10p
a litre we need milk to rise
But theyl never giv us what we want. Its just gonna average cost plus a living. Sure if we were gettin 40p litre we would stil only be gettin a living only wed have the pleasure of owning all new kit