Warp Land Farmer
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- Location
- Hazzard County
If you dont mind me asking what ELMS pilot do you have? Interested to see what options are bing considered.
Land Tender and Entitlement value?
- Thread starter Phil P
- Start date
- Location
- North West
I’ve got this for a decent amount under £150, I get the sub and can grow what ever is suitable for the soil types. It has grown spuds and carrots in the past but they aren’t currently in my rotation.
There’s actually a very good crop of oats on some of the fields which have been left behind, thinking I’ll getting them cut next week as a bit of a cash back deal
.cattleman123
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- Location
- devon
Yes simply...if you get the land do a calculation on how much extra profit your farm is going to make based on your projections...then take off 10% and also consider all the work you are going to have to do to get that little bit of extra profit..i say be realistic,sometimes its better not to get it
- Location
- North West
It’s to late, I’ve got it
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Oats normally mean low ph in my experience!I’ve got this for a decent amount under £150, I get the sub and can grow what ever is suitable for the soil types. It has grown spuds and carrots in the past but they aren’t currently in my rotation.
There’s actually a very good crop of oats on some of the fields which have been left behind, thinking I’ll getting them cut next week as a bit of a cash back deal
- Location
- North West
Most of the oats look to Have been drilled and are just about ready cutting! I’ll try and get some pictures later but don’t officially get the keys till Tuesday.
It will all be getting a full test, we’re on a VR application system so need it all mapping, l’ll be getting my man @Rhiza-UK on the job shortly
Steevo
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- Location
- Gloucestershire
How come the oats got left behind..?
- Location
- North West
it was been contract farmed, the estate must have decided they weren’t worth paying to harvest, cart, store etc. I have to bring the combine back from another farm so virtually passing the entrance, may as well call in and knock them off
. At over £170t there’s a decent crop of volunteer wheat I may have a look at as well
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cattleman123
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- Location
- devon
I wish you all the luck in the world...lets hope you earn a fortune...well doneIt’s to late, I’ve got it
- Location
- North West
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
I've never been successful like yourself.
But I always say full soil tests before taking on a new piece of land. I can tell them I will leave soil in same nutrients status as when I took it on.
Fair for everyone.
- Location
- Near Colchester
This is a good plan, I do it even though an FBT doesn't usually specify it. Treat the land like you would your own or an Ag. Holdings tenancy and the landlord should be impressed.
Chae1
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Farmer Bertie
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Hi Phil, I'd like to congratulate yourself on being successful on the applicant. I'd just like to say we was drafted in in 2017 to help the estate out as they was in a very unfortunate position. The land had actually been contracted farmed for over 20 years not just 2 years, unfortunately due to the weather the estate decided against putting a crop in 2019. After lots of discussion lord newton decided the cost he needed to spend on the land on trace elements, drainage, grain store ect and the travelling was too much for him so he made the tough decision he has retired from contract farming. The crops that are on the fields are volunteers only and we didn't even put the drill in the ground apart from attempted OSR.
I wish the best of luck and if you need me for anything give me a call. Herbert
- Location
- North West
Thanks Herb, not had a catch up for a while.
I knew most of the oats where volunteers but there’s a decent crop on one field that looks like it’s been drilled, i’d be happy with them in a year like this!
I was thinking of cutting them to reduce the amount of volunteers next year if nothing else, I got the cropping history today off Helen so can start looking at which way to go with it now.
Thanks again
Congratulations. Your main consideration should be to assess what happens when the 5 years is up. Are you able to negotiate an extension after the first year or so?
Whatever you do, when the term is up, and you haven't obtained an extension, leave with good grace. It will work in your favour when you apply for another FBT, either with the same or with another Landlord.
One of the main factors which inhibit Landowners from letting land, and which make it almost impossible for would-be tenants to obtain a tenancy, is the fear that Landlords have of being landed with a rogue tenant who, at the end of the term, tries to sit tight.
- Location
- North West
Provided all parties are still happy at the end of the 5 years it should roll into another 5 year agreement, probably be a rent review with the loss of bps and the start of elm’s.
Land comes and goes, that’s just part of farming, it’s what you do with it while you’ve got it that counts. Up to now I’ve only been offered more land from my current landlords so must be doing something right.
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- Location
- North West
As promised, couple of pics of the oats, this is probably the best field, worth cutting?
there’s 3 other fields that are a bit thinner but may be worth a nibble.
Doesn’t look a bad size grain.
there’s 3 other fields that are a bit thinner but may be worth a nibble.
Doesn’t look a bad size grain.
carpenter1
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- Location
- devon
I would say have a go, what have you got to lose? But something to gain
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Those oats look better than my sown spring oats. Much greenery underneath? Dessicate, wait a week . Straw alone will pay this year.