staff smoking in cabs

miniconnect

Member

Location

Argyll

• Aug 25, 2020

• #1

what do you do?

full time staff member, had many a telling off for cab smelling of smoke over the 2 years he's been here, but has always denied it. I've always been suspicious he either smokes with the back window open and hopes I don't notice, or stands in the doorway on a rainy day to save getting out caught him red handed today, jumped in the tractor puffing away. he claims part time staff member also does it so why should he bother. BECAUSE IT STINKS!!!!!

 

Lincs Lass

Member

Location

north lincs

• Aug 25, 2020

• #2

Have the cab professionally cleaned and only he uses it from then on ,no part timers, of it starts to smell again ,you then know who it is

 

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Drillman

Member

Mixed Farmer

• Aug 25, 2020

• #3

Just tell him cancer sticks are banned in the work place.

same goes for casuals.

 

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Wurzeetoo

Member

• Aug 25, 2020

• #4

I’ve got slightly a different stance on this. If only he uses it of course imagine how many hours you would lose if he pulled up every time? I don’t smoke in my van often but if a whole day of driving I do. If I’m in a manky digger I do but I obviously wouldn’t in someone else’s. But as a twist to my thoughts I smoke a fair bit but getting into my mates brand new pick up makes me gag with the stale smell. Can’t imagine it would be worth much now

 

Bald Rick

Moderator

Livestock Farmer

Location

Anglesey

• Aug 25, 2020

• #5

Problem is is that it’s an addiction and an addict needs a fix.

However we have zero tolerance for smoking in buildings or cabs

Having said that ... which is worse? Cigarettes or using a mobile phone?

 

bobk

Member

Location

stafford

• Aug 25, 2020

• #6

Bald Rick said:

Problem is is that it’s an addiction and an addict needs a fix.

However we have zero tolerance for smoking in buildings or cabs

Having said that ... which is worse? Cigarettes or using a mobile phone?

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Body odour and flatulence for 2 .

 

Tomr10

Member

• Aug 25, 2020

• #7

Isn’t there a law around smoking in work place vehicles, but as said is it worth letting him to get on with the job

 

GeorgeK

Member

Location

Leicestershire

• Aug 25, 2020

• #8

Vaping is popular now, he could be encouraged to try it? Still not ideal but the glycerine they use for the fog effect is far healthier than smoke

 

farmerdan7618

Member

Livestock Farmer

Location

Somerset

• Aug 25, 2020

• #9

It's illegal to smoke in work vehicles, so written warning.

However, be prepared to designate a smoking area on farm if you want to enforce this, and be prepared for employees to use it. Anywhere else and there are an awful lot of flammable materials on farms, zero tolerance is the only way to enforce this.

 

Lincs Lass

Member

Location

north lincs

• Aug 25, 2020

• #10

Maybe too late now @miniconnect but when the smoking ban came in ,,did you tell the staff then that smoking in the works vehicles was banned ,,there isnt a farm anywhere that wont have flammable and explosive materials on it ,,last thing you want is a valuable tractor stinking like a stale ash tray and then its value drops when you want to change it ,,and not nice for others to use breathing in that smell all day .

 

PSQ

Member

Arable Farmer

• Aug 25, 2020

• #11

P45.

 

Johnnyboxer

Member

Location

Yorkshire

• Aug 25, 2020

• #12

Build him a smoking hut, in the corner of yard

No smoking in company vehicles or premises

No haulage firm would stand for smoking in trucks as it breaches H&S and duty of care to employees

You could be liable for H&S as the employer !!

 

Tomr10

Member

• Aug 25, 2020

• #13

Johnnyboxer said:

Build him a smoking hut, in the corner of yard

No smoking in company vehicles or premises

No haulage firm would stand for smoking in trucks as it breaches H&S and duty of care to employees

You could be liable for H&S as the employer !!

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Not really in farming these days in all manufacturing I have worked in to 15 min breaks and 30 to an hour for lunch

 

daveydiesel1

Member

Livestock Farmer

Location

Co antrim

• Aug 25, 2020

• #14

Is he a valued employee? If so if u come down too hard on him hel probably choose the smoke over the job and go get a job with some1 else. As another post said its better than usin a phone

 

Johnnyboxer

Member

Location

Yorkshire

• Aug 25, 2020

• #15

Tomr10 said:

Not really in farming these days in all manufacturing I have worked in to 15 min breaks and 30 to an hour for lunch

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Farm is a workplace - so same H&S rules apply, like a factory

No difference in the eyes of the law

No smoking is no smoking.... on work premises

 

Tomr10

Member

• Aug 25, 2020

• #16

Johnnyboxer said:

Farm is a workplace - so same H&S rules apply, like a factory

No difference in the eyes of the law

No smoking is no smoking.... on work premises

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Yer rules are slightly different if self employed though aren’t they I know a few are are classed as that

 

bobk

Member

Location

stafford

• Aug 25, 2020

• #17

Bet this thread gets on to Brexit .

 

Tomr10

Member

• Aug 25, 2020

• #18

bobk said:

Bet this thread gets on to Brexit .

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Tell him face masks are mandatory due to Covid

 

PSQ

Member

Arable Farmer

• Aug 25, 2020

• #19

daveydiesel1 said:

As another post said its better than usin a phone

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It’s also better than injecting heroin, but that doesn’t make it any better. As for his attempts to throw a colleague under the bus to save his own skin, that’s a pansies trick, pure and simple.

 

bobk

Member

Location

stafford

• Aug 25, 2020

• #20

PSQ said:

It’s also better than injecting heroin, but that doesn’t make it any better. As for his attempts to throw a colleague under the bus to save his own skin, that’s a pansies trick, pure and simple.

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Think you'll find he threw him under the tractor .