Made in China!!!

Martin Holden · Sep 2, 2020

How much said:
I would think there are very few machines where something is not made in china be that a casting or a switch some trim or combination of parts so avoiding would be very hard to do if not impossible.
But TBH its quite good to hear that some are now starting to doubt the wisdom of using the PRC as the worlds workshop and there is good reason to doubt the leadership of china they are almost certainty manipulating the worlds countries to either align with them or suffer as a consequence, like Australia has been recently after being such a great trading partner of the Chinese.
I have great respect for the Chinese citizen as industrious hard workers , but I think the Chinese government have lost the plot with there current strategy that seems to undermining themselves on a world platform , but china are big and rich enough to influence smaller weaker nations and organisation such as WHO and will remain a very powerful nation even if we stopped trading with them completely
People voicing there concern about the prevalence of Chinese components in product cant be bad thing in the current climate

Provided cost and quality plus lead times can be managed, a broader supply base is handy and maybe especially so going forward. China has a too firm a grip on the world economy; a spread is better for risk management

76masseyman · Sep 2, 2020

Looking at an MF baler, made in Kansas, last week with the main gearbox in pieces due to bearing failure. Hard facing gone off several of them.
‘CHINA’ written on the bearings !!

capfits · Sep 2, 2020

Qman said:
I read that the new Valtra G-series Agco engine is made in China. Are other Agco engines also made in China?

After what China has done to us and the rest of the world I wouldn't want to buy anything off them and it has put me off Valtra

Have made engines there for a good while go into massey aswell you know.
Valtras also manufactured in Brazil.

michael N123 · Sep 2, 2020

Qman said:
So did I, but it is on the FW website.

The new G series is more like a massey than a valtra that’s agco pen pushers for you.... just buy an N or a T

vantage · Sep 2, 2020

michael N123 said:
The new G series is more like a massey than a valtra that’s agco pen pushers for you.... just buy an N or a T

Doing to Valtra what they did to MF combines?

michael N123 · Sep 2, 2020

vantage said:
Doing to Valtra what they did to MF combines?

Probably

dragonfly · Sep 2, 2020

Just fitted a new genuine CNH belt to my New Holland combine.
Made in China, stamped on the packaging!

Exfarmer · Sep 2, 2020

vantage said:
Doing to Valtra what they did to MF combines?

Agco never owned MF combines, they went bust

jpd · Sep 2, 2020

got garlic in the s/market from prc
i have a prc honor 10 phone which has been faultless
can we not grow garlic some where in europe?

jpd · Sep 2, 2020

there is a japanese made perkins motor in a venieri loader next door
not a lump ive seen before
or is it just my isolation and they are very common?

wexd · Sep 2, 2020

john432 said:
Agree, but where are our phones, tablets etc that we use to message on here made!

Agreed but most tablets and phones are knackered after a couple of years

Stock · Sep 3, 2020

If I recall correctly Mazda used to make a Perkins engine under license a 3.3l, seen a couple in Land Rovers over the years and all fitted with diesel kiki pumps..........................................................................................

Toby_1 · Sep 7, 2020

icanshootwell said:
I thought valtra used sisu engines which i thought was made in Finland nokia.

Most of them are. N Series, T Series and S Series engines are 100% from the AgcoPower factory in Finland.

Cowabunga · Sep 7, 2020

icanshootwell said:
I thought valtra used sisu engines which i thought was made in Finland nokia.

AGCO have a brand new factory in China that makes transmissions and three cylinder engines, which should be exactly the same as Finish made engines. As yet I believe they are only installed in Chinese made 'Global' series tractors.

Cowabunga · Sep 7, 2020

jpd said:
there is a japanese made perkins motor in a venieri loader next door
not a lump ive seen before
or is it just my isolation and they are very common?

Some ISM 2.0 and 2.2 litre engines are badge-engineered as Perkins. Some 3.2litre Iveco engines also. Not sure whether Perkins have any engineering or assembly input into their versions or whether it is pure badge engineering to fill gaps in the Cat/Perkins manufactured range.

Treg · Sep 7, 2020

icanshootwell said:
I thought valtra used sisu engines which i thought was made in Finland nokia.

All the smaller sisu engines are made in china , Massey and Valtra use them .
Massy's tractor of the year 2020 has a ..
..CNH engine , tells everything you need to know really

Deutzdx3 · Sep 7, 2020

Comer have a factory in China. Making pto shafts and gearboxes.

We use Dunlop belts and bearings as our oem supplier. All made in Europe. Nothing in China. Try to limit the amount of items I use from there but it’s tricky.

leone75 · Sep 7, 2020

Cowabunga said:
Some ISM 2.0 and 2.2 litre engines are badge-engineered as Perkins. Some 3.2litre Iveco engines also. Not sure whether Perkins have any engineering or assembly input into their versions or whether it is pure badge engineering to fill gaps in the Cat/Perkins manufactured range.

The ism engines are made in Peterborough.the 2.2 is their largest build as far as I know
The 854 Perkins are indeed a iveco unit

Qman · Sep 7, 2020

I went to an agricultural supplier for some wood shavings and decided to buy some masks as I hadn't got one in the Landrover. I noticed they were made in China, so I gave them back. They infect us and then try to sell us the PPE. They can GTH.

Qman · Sep 7, 2020

Treg said:
All the smaller sisu engines are made in china , Massey and Valtra use them .
Massy's tractor of the year 2020 has a ..
..CNH engine , tells everything you need to know really

A pal of mine has bought a Case cuz it was cheap and it has a CNH engine which is the best thing about the tractor, he reckons. Why can't other manufacturers make engines as good as CNH?

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