Harvest/Yields 2020

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
Watching some of our really large scale neighbours using just one monster combine in our dodgy climate am reminded of an old college economics lecturer that said to us that in the seventies there were twice as many combines in the north of Scotland as were needed in theory.So when she went to do a whole farm budget on a smallish farm and they had two combines the first one was treated as a machinery cost and the second one was an insurance cost.
Some of those guys with thousands of acres and next to no drier will be in the sh!t
 

robbie

Member
BASIS
I'm losing my mojo :( 100 acres of S Barley drilled, various establishment methods, all the same result 0.75 - 1.25 t/a depending on drilling date and field. :cry:
Just curious but why do you think your farm has performed so bad this year??? I know no one in the east has done particularly well but you seem to have really suffered especially as I'd consider you to be on what I'd call good land.
 

David.

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
J11 M40
I'm losing my mojo :( 100 acres of S Barley drilled, various establishment methods, all the same result 0.75 - 1.25 t/a depending on drilling date and field. :cry:
That is a shocker. What are you attributing it to?
To be brutally honest, I thought I remembered you posting some fairly horrendous drilling pictures, with a Moore drill, way back when.
I'm trying not to forget that some of these really good reported spring barley crops were planted where a first wheat should have been, and so they ought to perform.
Our less good stuff was continuous sp.barley, and whilst I know it costs buggerall to grow, I dont think it's very sustainable to be honest.
 

robbie

Member
BASIS
No rain perhaps?
Yes I get that, but we went without rain for most of the growing season too and I'm on light sand land and my yields were OK, infact a lot of stuff surprised us how good it actually was given the year. I'd consider @Adeptandy to be on good land being on the fens, certainly better than the beachy dust weve got.
I was wondering if perhaps his endeavours to use min till/direct drill ect just doesnt work on his farm and he'd be better of ploughing and combi drilling.
 

Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
That is a shocker. What are you attributing it to?
To be brutally honest, I thought I remembered you posting some fairly horrendous drilling pictures, with a Moore drill, way back when.
I'm trying not to forget that some of these really good reported spring barley crops were planted where a first wheat should have been, and so they ought to perform.
;)
Wash your mouth out. Its the future you know.........
 

Adeptandy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
PE15
Just curious but why do you think your farm has performed so bad this year??? I know no one in the east has done particularly well but you seem to have really suffered especially as I'd consider you to be on what I'd call good land.
I wish I knew, I should have drilled a week sooner in hindsight. Drilled both conventional and DD and very little difference. I think it’s lack of rain mostly. Had a wet patch that had standing water over winter and the Barley was thick and good ears, so I’m trying to console myself it was more rainfall than anything. Or the simple answer is I’m crap at it and been getting away with it until now 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

Adeptandy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
PE15
Yes I get that, but we went without rain for most of the growing season too and I'm on light sand land and my yields were OK, infact a lot of stuff surprised us how good it actually was given the year. I'd consider @Adeptandy to be on good land being on the fens, certainly better than the beachy dust weve got.
I was wondering if perhaps his endeavours to use min till/direct drill ect just doesnt work on his farm and he'd be better of ploughing and combi drilling.
Min til had been working ok for years, only reason I’m looking at DD is BG is getting out of control. Did plough in November for W Wheats this year and that’s not been great either. Timeliness and working off farm can be a challenge, and this year my set up just wasn’t able to cope. I need to purchase a drill in the next 2 weeks as I’ve sold my collection, haven’t a clue what to get now 😏
 

jh.

Member
Location
fife
Min til had been working ok for years, only reason I’m looking at DD is BG is getting out of control. Did plough in November for W Wheats this year and that’s not been great either. Timeliness and working off farm can be a challenge, and this year my set up just wasn’t able to cope. I need to purchase a drill in the next 2 weeks as I’ve sold my collection, haven’t a clue what to get now [emoji57]
If you ever work out which one drill does everything consistently, mind let the rest of us know
 

Adeptandy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
PE15
If you ever work out which one drill does everything consistently, mind let the rest of us know
Until this year a Vaddy has been king on everything but Pea's and OSR. If I have to plough, then I'll have to give up, as just not the time or margin to do that and would need considerable investment now. I am tempted with a combi again but still not sure thats the right way to go, but think thats the most versatile option of all the drills/weather conditions.
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Until this year a Vaddy has been king on everything but Pea's and OSR. If I have to plough, then I'll have to give up, as just not the time or margin to do that and would need considerable investment now. I am tempted with a combi again but still not sure thats the right way to go, but think thats the most versatile option of all the drills/weather conditions.

Have you considered subbing some of the work out? I know it looks dearer on paper, but you look like you earn decent money off farm. I can't plough for as cheap as a contractor. Sub out the draught work, and burn that rotten combine. Keep hold of the jobs that can all be done with one lowish hp tractor that are the most profitable IE spreading and spraying. Looks like nice soil, so pay someone to black it all over. You run over with a press, drill, roll, etc.
 

Two Tone

Member
Mixed Farmer
Time again for the long sleep!
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