osr sowing survival strategy

GeorgeK

Member
Location
Leicestershire
Waaay too thick! If I was keen I'd take a few tines out the spring tine harrows and drag them through but that's not going to happen so they will have to fight amongst themselves.
7kg/ha 1st week Aug
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4course

Member
Location
north yorks
Why don't some of you guys try what I sell. It controls slugs and we have anecdotal evidence it has an effect on CSFB. They come in have a nibble then move on. "Seems" they don't like the soil conditions created by the mix of sulphates (no insecticide) any more than slugs. Somebody give it a go and if I am talking BS no doubt you will post. People it works for never seem to post.
5kg bag £52 del 1kg/ha ( I will wear the haulage) however for the trial you must use Reactor water Conditioner and Anchor which I will supply to keep it in the surface zone as it is very soluble. To use up the Anchor 1ltr @ 0.1l/ha and Reactor better to try 10ha but wouldn't like to seem I am bankrupting you by getting you to spend an extra £52. Pm me.
why not just apply some sulphur through the sprayer or a packet of washing powder
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Waaay too thick! If I was keen I'd take a few tines out the spring tine harrows and drag them through but that's not going to happen so they will have to fight amongst themselves.
7kg/ha 1st week Aug
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When we used to sow bought in seed we just followed the recs on the packs. Those had that kind of seed rate. Taller varieties too. Hmm, we made good money out of those crops too at better yields than today’s!
 

Renaultman

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Darlington
now then just for fun , whos crop looks best atm in your view brisels or renaultmans cant be more than a few miles apart
Yeah he's just South of the Tees and I'm just North of it
We're all a long way from harvest which is the only test that matters.
The OSR in the pic is Exstar I will try to get one of my Campus which is less forward but far higher plant count both drilled at the seed rate recommended on the bag.
 

4course

Member
Location
north yorks
Renaultman’s. His are more even & he sprayed his volunteers out sooner. Both have potential 👍🏻
I would be happy with either ,but its a long way to go to harvest . it pains me to say it reckon both are looking as good if not better than mine .though taking into account it may just be the camera I prefer the shade of green in renaultmans atm .he ho time will tell though both look as good as any ive seen in the area and those later sown seem to be struggling a bit
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I would be happy with either ,but its a long way to go to harvest . it pains me to say it reckon both are looking as good if not better than mine .though taking into account it may just be the camera I prefer the shade of green in renaultmans atm .he ho time will tell though both look as good as any ive seen in the area and those later sown seem to be struggling a bit
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Happy now?
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
My contract field of HEAR OSR, that didn't get seedbed gypsum, is having the same issues anything germinating late is just getting munched. Hopefully there are enough already germinated to give a crop. How was that established?

Plough and combination in catchy weather, causing capping.

Most of the rest went in ok, has some grazing but is growing slowly but steadily.
 
Location
N Yorks
This looks normal for me at this point.
volunteers sprayed and a pyrethroid. Grazing was non existent until the day before spraying but damage occurred very quickly.
Later sown after spring barley all at cotyledons stage but thicker. Had a higher seed rate and I lifted the dale drill coulters a fraction.

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DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
We haven’t drilled any as everything was late harvested. Neighbours who drilled early and got rain is fine, later drilled and no rain is struggling. That’s the difference between establishment success or failure.
What happens with egg laying and larvae will only be known by the spring. A kind moist spring will offset larvae damage. Lap of the gods as ever nowadays.
 
Ihave used sulphur and noticed a decline in pest damage ,the washing powder comment was base on grandads using the suds from the old dolly tub on his veg patch which realistically means a foliar phosphate to deter crittars which also has an effect
Digestate seems to work as well. Breakthru slightly different in that mainly it is applied pre-em along with herbicides. Soil conditions seem unsuitable for them same as slugs. So far seem to fly in and fly out without laying eggs although maybe it affects the nematodes as well. Just not enough feedback. Applied post em to foliage of osr cereals veg etc definitely no grazing by slugs, even Spanish ones. Don't know about its effect post em on CSFB grazing.
 

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