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- Northern Ireland
But positive results do not necessarily translate into serious illness. Particularly when testing capacity has increased, and lots of asymptomatic positives will be coming back. A very different picture to lockdown.
The "I`ve got it" thread...
- Thread starter JCMaloney
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But positive results do not necessarily translate into serious illness. Particularly when testing capacity has increased, and lots of asymptomatic positives will be coming back. A very different picture to lockdown.
Deaths will follow , for sure
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- Northern Ireland
Yes, some.
There is an inevitability about disease. Not everyone makes it. It's tough to achieve herd immunity without some casualties.
There is an inevitability about disease. Not everyone makes it. It's tough to achieve herd immunity without some casualties.
Who has said herd immunity will succeed
I am sure that you have more experience than most of us in these matters, having moved about beyond these shores a few times and been an early confirmed victim. Your views are highly valued but it seems that you have retained a sense of social responsibility. I have retreated to live under a stone to a certain extent, I do not believe an effective vaccine will be available soon, if ever, and I think it will be a considerable time before herd immunity has much effect. Treating the symptoms and side effects offers the best hope as I believe that this is another flu type virus but with rather more serious consequences. We will win in the end but there is no quick fix.
I'm just another armchair pundit , but I will take a considered risk
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- Limousin
Exactly, I bit like trying to get herd immunity to seasonal flu. And a further damper, no one yet has ever made a successful vaccine for a Corona type virus.
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Never said it was - but one trend will follow the other, and if they wait until the hospitals fill up, it’s too late.
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- Northern Ireland
Agree.
Like it or not, there is a lot of herd immunity to seasonal flu. Immunity to old strains probably takes the edge off the effect new strains have on us. It's possible that there is even some transfer of immunity from other coronaviruses we have met to covid 19, which might be a factor in explaining asymptomatic cases.
And it's a fact that all the positives who have not died from Covid 19 (an awful lot) remained alive because of immunity they have developed to it. Fact.
Like it or not, there is a lot of herd immunity to seasonal flu. Immunity to old strains probably takes the edge off the effect new strains have on us. It's possible that there is even some transfer of immunity from other coronaviruses we have met to covid 19, which might be a factor in explaining asymptomatic cases.
And it's a fact that all the positives who have not died from Covid 19 (an awful lot) remained alive because of immunity they have developed to it. Fact.
......and their nutritional status - Vits A, B,esp thiamine,C, D, and the clotting capacity of their blood. If not already on a blood ‘thinner’ fishoil is better than nothing. Ditch or reduce any form of sugar or sweeteners.
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- Northern Ireland
Sugar and sweeteners. Uh-oh. That's me dead then. As I sit down on the sofa with my glass of Pepsi Max and galaxy chocolate.
Johnnyboxer
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- Location
- Yorkshire
same with the Aberdeen spike, allegedly a Rig worker
Early on we had very little testing.
We probably had 100k positive folk in the country and we could only "see" the tip of the iceberg.
Now, as posted earlier, we need to be ahead of the curve so "test,test,test" is finding more cases, which can be acted on and (hopefully!) lead to fewer admissions & fewer deaths.
11,102 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 10,968 (increase 134).
6697 (increase of 81) are within the Leicester City Council area.
4405 (increase of 53) cases were reported in the County.
Our Trust reported 2 death's (18th & 19th Sept). The hospital total deaths stands at 446.
And some people are selfish ends of the bell.
We probably had 100k positive folk in the country and we could only "see" the tip of the iceberg.
Now, as posted earlier, we need to be ahead of the curve so "test,test,test" is finding more cases, which can be acted on and (hopefully!) lead to fewer admissions & fewer deaths.
11,102 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 10,968 (increase 134).
6697 (increase of 81) are within the Leicester City Council area.
4405 (increase of 53) cases were reported in the County.
Our Trust reported 2 death's (18th & 19th Sept). The hospital total deaths stands at 446.
And some people are selfish ends of the bell.
Yesterday's figures.....
11,252 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 11,102 (increase 150).
6789 (increase of 92) were within the Leicester City Council area.
4463 (increase of 58) cases were reported in the County.
UHL reported 0 death's.
Today's figures
11,345 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 11,252 (increase 93).
6830 (increase of 41) are within the Leicester City Council area.
4515 (increase of 52) cases were reported in the County.
UHL reported 0 death's hospital total stands at 446.
Inpatient numbers are increasing, but very slowly.
We have 4 in ITU.
We are up to date.
Have a lovely weekend, hands-face-space!
11,252 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 11,102 (increase 150).
6789 (increase of 92) were within the Leicester City Council area.
4463 (increase of 58) cases were reported in the County.
UHL reported 0 death's.
Today's figures
11,345 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 11,252 (increase 93).
6830 (increase of 41) are within the Leicester City Council area.
4515 (increase of 52) cases were reported in the County.
UHL reported 0 death's hospital total stands at 446.
Inpatient numbers are increasing, but very slowly.
We have 4 in ITU.
We are up to date.
Have a lovely weekend, hands-face-space!
Broke the law........ went to stay over with the cousins "Up North".
Only 2 couples, both "clear" and we remained socially distanced and drank too much.
Alcohol kills Covid.
11,510 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 11,436 (increase 74).
6907 (increase of 38) were in the City Council area.
4603 (increase of 36) were in the County.
Only 2 couples, both "clear" and we remained socially distanced and drank too much.
Alcohol kills Covid.
11,510 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 11,436 (increase 74).
6907 (increase of 38) were in the City Council area.
4603 (increase of 36) were in the County.
- Location
- Limousin
Broke the law........ went to stay over with the cousins "Up North".
Only 2 couples, both "clear" and we remained socially distanced and drank too much.
Alcohol kills Covid.
11,510 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 11,436 (increase 74).
6907 (increase of 38) were in the City Council area.
4603 (increase of 36) were in the County.
I hope you tested your eyesight at Barnard Castle whilst up there, it's the only true test.
ollie989898
Member
@JCMaloney what has changed between what was going on in March and April, compared to more recently? There doesn't seem to be as many deaths happening? Has a more effective set of care guidelines been generated? Dexamethasone etc?
Hindsight
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- Lincolnshire
Broke the law........ went to stay over with the cousins "Up North".
Only 2 couples, both "clear" and we remained socially distanced and drank too much.
Alcohol kills Covid.
11,510 people in Leicestershire have tested positive - up from 11,436 (increase 74).
6907 (increase of 38) were in the City Council area.
4603 (increase of 36) were in the County.
Hi did you break the law - I haven't kept track of restrictions. Thought it was only in these special lockdown areas not supposed to mingle in someone elses house Hey ho. Just as well I am not entering Mastermind with my specialist subject Covid rules.
In a nutshell we had far more admissions/inpatients in March/April.
Back then the testing was negligible then and there were far more cases in the community than we knew about.
If the same testing regime was in place then it would possibly have been picking up 10`s of thousands of cases.
We now know far more now thanks to experience & research so the medic`s can get ahead of deterioration in a clinical environment.
They also have intervention plans that start earlier and prevent the patient getting to the critical point.
Earlier oxygen therapy, more testing, dexamethasone, differing drug therapies,clinical trials like Convalescent plasma, better understanding of the chain of events, avoiding the cytokine "storm" and many other reasons.
There are an awful lot of early research papers out there for those interested.
Here in Leicester we are one of the top 3 acute trusts for sending folk home alive.
The NHs is an amazingly flexible beast when it needs to be, the concern now are the deaths that are occurring from the "normal" stuff that is piling up in the community.
They reckon that if testing was available in march/april cases would be in the region of 100,000 a day