autumn re-seeding

Tirglas

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Location
West wales
Why would a grass with a score of 2.8 even be on the list when the better ones are 8
Aberavon as an example use to score quite well years ago on the list it has dropped down unsurprisingly, I once used it on its own on fresh land drainage scars and on some levelling top soil - I had yellow brown lines for years after was obviously struggling in wet or cloudy weather spells. I was gutted at the time because I was all into this high sugar job as the future
 
3 very dry weeks stalled growth. Rust crept in. Regardless of variety, all fields have patches on the light drought ground. Wet heavy areas are still dark green.
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Aberavon as an example use to score quite well years ago on the list it has dropped down unsurprisingly, I once used it on its own on fresh land drainage scars and on some levelling top soil - I had yellow brown lines for years after was obviously struggling in wet or cloudy weather spells. I was gutted at the time because I was all into this high sugar job as the future

You weren't the only one who was on the high sugar express. Clever marketing that was.
 

Llmmm

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You weren't the only one who was on the high sugar express. Clever marketing that was.
What would be recommended varities to last neighbours farm has been reseeded 30yrs + ago and still looks good hes no idea what he used but even if he did im sure they wouldnt be avaiable today with all these high performance grasses which dont last being the only ones people use.
 

Tirglas

Member
Location
West wales
I thought you only sowed aber - all my aber have rust on - my other mixes have little to nothing-
I think the aber varieties do better in dry sunny conditions than wet or overcast, and need N little and often and grazed or cut at shortish intervals to stay green. I would say that they're better suited to southern England and drier areas than much of Wales unfortunately
 

Derrick Hughes

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Location
Ceredigion
What would be recommended varities to last neighbours farm has been reseeded 30yrs + ago and still looks good hes no idea what he used but even if he did im sure they wouldnt be avaiable today with all these high performance grasses which dont last being the only ones people use.
HM.17 Intensive Grazer Grass Seed Mix (Acre Pack) (8 Years Dual Purpose)
3.00 kg FOXTROT Perennial Ryegrass Late Dip
3.00 kg TODDINGTON Perennial Ryegrass Late Dip
2.50 kg VALERIO Perennial Ryegrass Late Tet
3.00 kg BIJOU Perennial Ryegrass Late Tet
1.50 kg COMER Timothy
1.00 kg White Clover Blend
14.00 kg per acre

Not a sign of rust Maybe an odd leaf - next field is covered in it
A dependable mix
Sold no end of that to farmers who say their mixtures are not lasting
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som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
the length of time a ley stays down, is mainly controlled by weather, and management, we have a small acreage of p/p, it's sort of kept going, through this summer, certainly better than some leys. Does a very long ley, slowly revert back to natural grasses, and by correct management, ensures only the 'better' wild grasses survive, and improve ? And were some of the long outdated, better than the 'new' ones ?
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
the length of time a ley stays down, is mainly controlled by weather, and management, we have a small acreage of p/p, it's sort of kept going, through this summer, certainly better than some leys. Does a very long ley, slowly revert back to natural grasses, and by correct management, ensures only the 'better' wild grasses survive, and improve ? And were some of the long outdated, better than the 'new' ones ?
You take a-risk with newer verities as they have not had the test of time - I can remember S23 and Later Melle used constantly for over 20 years being the mainstay of most paddock systems- one grass with white clover - things have moved on a lot but look back over the recommended lists and see how some of the desease ratings have fallen as grasses get older, as one member has already commented , my thoughts are using tertraploeds and Overseeding so persistence is less of an issue, but I need to see it work on my own farm - we have 55 acres going in this week if it stops raining
 

Great In Grass

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Location
Cornwall.
You take a-risk with newer verities as they have not had the test of time
With Barenbrug grass varieties it's only after 17 years of research and development the first grass seed goes on sale.

This includes multiple performance tests. These can take place on farms, in fields, at sports arenas, anywhere that is appropriate.

Chosen varieties are sent to various official independent trials which determine if the variety’s performance is sufcient to get it registered.
 

Great In Grass

Member
Location
Cornwall.
Foxtrot hasn't been listed for 2-3 years doubt you would get any new seed from DLF there may be old stock kicking about though. It wasn't that good on Drechslera either (5.5).

We used to put it in Horse & Pony paddock mixes.
 

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