Fly tipping.

Is it all dumped because it's too difficult/expensive to take it to the dump, or are they just too lazy?
Bit of both really, but then you see the effort put in to what’s loaded, and then unloaded, maybe it’s more to do with difficulty. Alright, the small tipper truck brigade just find a convenient gateway on the way home from the latest garden makeover, and just tip it. They’ve probably already charged the customer a disposal charge.
The council waste transfer station near us won’t let you in in a van as they believe you are trade waste, even though a van makes more sense than filling the interior of your car with crap.
An upright fridge has appeared with us overnight, that’s after half a dozen single mattresses last month !!
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
not all, but I do think a lot is due to the difficulty of the council deciding what can be tipped in their recycling centres, our local council used to (maybe still do?) collect from collection centres in local villages but then decided they would not accept anything bought on a trailer, why? Yes, there may be some trade waste, but better to collect free trade waste than pay to pick it up from a layby. Tenants moved out of the bungalow and left a freezer behind (an old shop freezer with a glass lid), local recycling centre would not accept it as they said it was trade waste so I had to take it home again, I took it later without the lid and they were fine about it then.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
My experience is that roadside waste is mostly from locals rather than tourists. Okay, maybe not my next door neighbour, but fellow Highlanders. How do I think that? Well when you get the same brand of drink can dropped in the same place (within 50 yds on an B road) every week day for six months, that's not a tourist. Sure some stuff is obviously from holidaymakers, but a heck of a lot isn't.
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
My experience is that roadside waste is mostly from locals rather than tourists. Okay, maybe not my next door neighbour, but fellow Highlanders. How do I think that? Well when you get the same brand of drink can dropped in the same place (within 50 yds on an B road) every week day for six months, that's not a tourist. Sure some stuff is obviously from holidaymakers, but a heck of a lot isn't.
My neighbour would agree, she has a monthly clear up on her local road and picks up a gator full of alcohol cans over a half mile stretch every time
 

Cheesehead

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Kent
My neighbour would agree, she has a monthly clear up on her local road and picks up a gator full of alcohol cans over a half mile stretch every time
Years ago a local that has long since moved away used to chuck his empty brandy bottles over the hedge into our field so my mum went along and sat them on top of the fence posts in a long line they promptly got picked up but she noticed he started coming home by a circuitous route and promptly found he had gone that way everyday to lob them in the pond.
 

dudders

Member
Location
East Sussex
They actually nabbed a woman round here recently:


£40 fine, £300 for the council and £32 'victim surcharge'. Pathetic. Not much of a payment for the victim, ie landowner who had to clear it all up and take it to the dump.

She didn't bother to attend the court and it's pretty obvious she won't pay any of the penalties. She'll just ignore them and eventually they'll be dropped. She'd soon change her attitude if she was hauled off to a spell in a cell, with an extra 6 months if she didn't reveal the contact details of the guy who took it away and dumped it for her. Or a good whipping, like they do in Singapore...
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
They actually nabbed a woman round here recently:


£40 fine, £300 for the council and £32 'victim surcharge'. Pathetic. Not much of a payment for the victim, ie landowner who had to clear it all up and take it to the dump.

She didn't bother to attend the court and it's pretty obvious she won't pay any of the penalties. She'll just ignore them and eventually they'll be dropped. She'd soon change her attitude if she was hauled off to a spell in a cell, with an extra 6 months if she didn't reveal the contact details of the guy who took it away and dumped it for her. Or a good whipping, like they do in Singapore...

Criminal fine would mean the farmer could sue for the full costs of the cleanup as the criminal burden of proof is higher. Admittedly she won't have the £££ to pay, but the farmer can have the pleasure of enforcing the ccj by sending the bailiffs in every christmas week for the next six years........
 

dudders

Member
Location
East Sussex
I think it is a criminal case, and yes the landowner could sue, but he'd have to pay to do so, and fill out all those forms, and get nothing. I chased someone like that once, Mark Hoad, Windmill Lodge Stables, Lewes, for damage he'd done here, this was civil, not criminal, got a ccj, but he just ignored everything. It was up to me to pay for the next stage, and the next, each time escalating the debt, and I'd still have got nothing. Waste of time throwing good money after bad. That's the way it goes in today's UK. :mad:
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
In my local Facebook page a lady asked the name off someone willing to take some rubbish to the local tip for her.
A lady volunteered her husband who has started doing local light haulage during Covid. I pointed out the need for a Waste Carriers ticket, only because I know the man is very honest and would hate to see him get a ticket.
In response I had a barrage of abuse from the first poster saying I was talking rubbish. I posted the relevant link but still got a message back from her to Butt out
 

dudders

Member
Location
East Sussex
In my local Facebook page a lady asked the name off someone willing to take some rubbish to the local tip for her.
A lady volunteered her husband who has started doing local light haulage during Covid. I pointed out the need for a Waste Carriers ticket, only because I know the man is very honest and would hate to see him get a ticket.
In response I had a barrage of abuse from the first poster saying I was talking rubbish. I posted the relevant link but still got a message back from her to Butt out
One of several reasons I don't do FB. The cons outweigh the pros for me.
 

rob h

Member
Location
east yorkshire
I took our old settee to the tip on a twin axle trailer towed behind a saloon car.i was refused entry because my trailer had 4 wheels .they said I was classed as industrial and would have to come back on the day designated for industrial waste an pay .if my trailer had only 2 wheels it would have been ok.and they wonder why fly tipping happens.
 
The more stringent the council are with these rules in recycling centres, the more people will fly tip. Why they don't just let people dispose of it properly I will never know, it would be cheaper that way then sending council blokes to clear up fly tipping.

Builders, make them pay an annual tax that lets them dispose of waste at these sites freely. Make it a percentage of turnover.
 

Farmer_Joe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
The North
I took our old settee to the tip on a twin axle trailer towed behind a saloon car.i was refused entry because my trailer had 4 wheels .they said I was classed as industrial and would have to come back on the day designated for industrial waste an pay .if my trailer had only 2 wheels it would have been ok.and they wonder why fly tipping happens.
ha ha you should have take 2 wheels off, bet it woyld be to many axles then!
 

Robert K

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Essex
In my local Facebook page a lady asked the name off someone willing to take some rubbish to the local tip for her.
A lady volunteered her husband who has started doing local light haulage during Covid. I pointed out the need for a Waste Carriers ticket, only because I know the man is very honest and would hate to see him get a ticket.
In response I had a barrage of abuse from the first poster saying I was talking rubbish. I posted the relevant link but still got a message back from her to Butt out


This is a huge problem and the trouble is the home owner doesn't care what happens to their sofa or garden waste etc, they just want it shifted out the way and of course as cheap as possible.

Then they are the first to moan when there rat run lane is blocked with fly tip.

RANT OVER
 
This is a huge problem and the trouble is the home owner doesn't care what happens to their sofa or garden waste etc, they just want it shifted out the way and of course as cheap as possible.

Then they are the first to moan when there rat run lane is blocked with fly tip.

RANT OVER

I paid a man and a van type outfit to take away a load of rotten garden sheds/wendy houses.

He arrived in a sign-written van and gave me a very nice receipt type document, appearing most professional. To this day I have no idea what he did with the waste. For all I know he could have dumped it in some farmer's gateway.
 

Robert K

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Essex
I paid a man and a van type outfit to take away a load of rotten garden sheds/wendy houses.

He arrived in a sign-written van and gave me a very nice receipt type document, appearing most professional. To this day I have no idea what he did with the waste. For all I know he could have dumped it in some farmer's gateway.


He sounds too professional to fly tip in a sign written van
 

rob h

Member
Location
east yorkshire
ha ha you should have take 2 wheels off, bet it woyld be to many axles then!
This was selby so I went to goole and they helped me lift it off.however they now won’t let me in with the trailer without paying I can have 2 free vouchers per year but I have to go to the council offices to get them
 

teslacoils

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Today's goodies. Got reg. Same folk as before. Sigh.
 

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