Future trends

spin cycle

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in the spirit of 'future trends' ocado the online retailer is now worth more than tescos......now it could be the online shopping bubble may burst OR the dinosaur that is tesco is doomed :scratchhead: .....investors betting on the latter at mo
 

Ukjay

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Wales!
Why do all these foods copy the names of meat alternatives shouldn't be allowed .


Because they're bloody awful and they know how stupid people are, and by calling it by the real meat name - subcontiously the idiots think it is similar.

Should call Quorn - cardboard, because that's what it tastes like imho.
My wife thought she'd try the Sausages one night without telling us - what a mistake that was, bloody awful...
 

Ukjay

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Wales!
in the spirit of 'future trends' ocado the online retailer is now worth more than tescos......now it could be the online shopping bubble may burst OR the dinosaur that is tesco is doomed :scratchhead: .....investors betting on the latter at mo

If you look at Tescos last 5 years trading, I do not believe they are as dire as some may like to believe.
As for Ocado, they have just gambled with their new food brand, so will be interesting to see how they fair now...
 

Derrick Hughes

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Ceredigion
There is no Asda store within 50 miles of me. The nearest is Swansea but it is the Merthyr store that delivers into this area. I stopped using them because of too many substitutions and poor quality veg plus dirty baskets. They are now in Covid lockdown.
Asda is in the throws of being taken over by two Indian/British brothers that have come from nowhere in the last ten years. I wonder if this publicity nonsense about a great big push towards expanding vegan is anything to do with that or whether it is part of a rapidly accelerating general trend. I fear it is the latter, considering the Tesco pronouncement only yesterday.

The Ostriches among us will have to acknowledge that this is happening and will continue to accelerate, sooner or later. When it really starts to hit their bottom line, which it will, make no mistake about that, they will have no choice.

In the meantime there are maybe three or four years left to somehow adapt on land that is good for little else other than grass production. What eats grass? What do people and the government want less and less of? Animals that eat grass. Ruminants.
My brother eats stubble turnips and to be honest they taste wonderful- so that's one for you for starters - he also puts dock leaves in his salad- im sure even your poor ground can grow those
 

Derrick Hughes

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Frisia Stubble Turnip with Dock Leaf Salad
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spin cycle

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north norfolk
If you look at Tescos last 5 years trading, I do not believe they are as dire as some may like to believe.
As for Ocado, they have just gambled with their new food brand, so will be interesting to see how they fair now...

yes but point of thread is 'future trends'.....if tesco believes vegan is the future....then right now investors feel online shopping is the future......leaving tesco with a very expensive property cost base
 

Ukjay

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yes but point of thread is 'future trends'.....if tesco believes vegan is the future....then right now investors feel online shopping is the future......leaving tesco with a very expensive property cost base

I'm not so certain they will move completely to Vegan, but move a percentage to it as they test the water, the same as a lot of other supermarkets will. It makes business sense if the Modern Trend is to eat it...

Tescos are ruthless, as anyone should know - and as soon as the sales drop, they will drop it like a stone.

What the real issue will be, is not the Vegan foods cropping up on the shelves, but the total lack of anyone or any powerful organisation with balls and absolute knowledge of environmental impacts to be able to stand up and fight them on the data and misinformation that is out there.

Blame everyone / everything for anything you need to, but do not ignore the greatest elephant in the closet....

Oh, and finally, Tescos think nothing about ditching property, as they have done it many times before...
 

hendrebc

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Livestock Farmer
am I right in thinking grass fed meat is higher in Omega3 fatty acids (which are really healthy), where as cattle finished on grain are higher in Omega 6 (which is unhealthy), so even if we ignore the soil health argument, grass fed meat is better for us
It's higher in the good stuff yes but what the good stuff is I can't remember well enough to tell you. There is quite a difference between the grass and grain fed meat and they don't need a lot of grain to make that difference either. True pasture for life stuff should command more of a premium than it does.
 

DaveGrohl

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Cumbria
It isn't so much that omega 3 is good for us and omega 6 is bad, it's that the ideal ration is 1:1 whereas the av person now has a ratio of something like 1:18 om3:m6, ie we're all consuming waaay too much omega 6 but coincidentally not enough omega 3 at the same time. This is primarily due to the industrial vegetable oils that are so prevalent in all the processed/package crap we all eat from the supermarket and everywhere else. The very first basic thing anyone could do to address this is to switch to butter instead of margarine and then look at everything else with second thing being to chuck out all of the veg oils you use to cook with.

It's a complicated subject, fats, but you need to get info from the likes of Zoe Harcombe rather than the media (or social media lol). Except the FF obvs :ROFLMAO:
 
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Derrick Hughes

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Ceredigion
If things got that bad, not only would I give up farming, I think I’d just give up on life.:(
I think its quite nice to see two older people living a simple life - they don't go out much due to CV , local shop kindly delivers there supplies and they make that up with what they gather from the local fields
They don't farm but cant see what difference that make
Did you never go blackberry picking
 

Ashtree

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Thing is I had a couple of local lads give me a hand with a bit of concreting and other odds and sods around the yard two days last week. Now these lads, more than able to put away a good traditional meat and spud dinner.
My Mrs., served us up a good supper both days, of burger,,fries, and bits and pieces. All socially distanced in the shed!
Second day she asks, what did ye think of those burgers lads? We all concurred they were lovely, and I asked innocently, were they from Sam’s the local butcher?
No says she with a wicked smile ..... they were Aldi’s best veggie burgers😱😱😱😱.
I’m not joking .... we didn’t know the difference or care as we were hungry. But they looked to the casual eye like beef burgers, and they tasted ok!!

Now I’m looking at my suckler cows with a hint of suspicion 😑😑
 

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