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Yes but that's a "good" factory.
RSPCA seek to end "factory farming"
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What really showed the fragility of the supply chain was the blockade of the refinaries during Gordon Brown's period in no.10.
the people who know best ? have this utopia vision of farming and the countryside in the UK, one is the undoing of hundreds of years of countryside management and introduction of what were extinct animals such as beavers, wolves, etc etc, extinct for a good reason maybe ? the other is somes sort of old fashioned freerange type farming ? while blindly not seeing the widespread rapid building on and thus shrinking land that could produce food, why dosnt population growth ever come into the argument ?
perhaps ,we all ought to buy toppers, reduce all production across all sectors for 18 months. All go and get a job for a year,Just keep nucleus breeding stock for livestock, and let supply and demand run its course. And main thing DO Not sign up to Elms. So we are ready to start producing when we have a bit of respect.
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It saddens me, well it doesn't really, to think that after 14 years of free, compulsory education, we still churn out such a number of folk who are "thick as pig shyt". Degrees, opinions, "job" in some vacuous crap, and a life watching Instagram. Waste. Of. Time.
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- North Wales
Almost agree with you. Why suffer a loss in production when the income can be replaced by elms? It'll take longer than 18months for people realise they need food more than sky or an I phone.
And when UK ag starts to produce again we shouldn't all ramp up production it'll just undo Al the work that'll have been done.
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- Fife
Farmers might not sign up for ELMS, but already land agents on large estates are trying to take land back in hand and maximise the land lords claim.
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CopperBeech
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Has anyone worked out what a factory farm actually is?
A farm where they grow factories
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- leics/warks border
All charities are struggling at the moment.
I think that they have decided to say something really radical because they are desperate for funds and attention. They have a massive pension and wages commitment.
I think that they have decided to say something really radical because they are desperate for funds and attention. They have a massive pension and wages commitment.
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Oh and a six figure salary for the head man no doubt !
how many would donate if they knew the facts?
CopperBeech
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Let me just clarify my feeling. The rspca are scum, absolute scum. It’s a deal breaker for me - if you work for them we can’t associate in any way, taking to you in the pub I’d turn my back and walk away. I hate them with a passion and they should be rooted out and abolished.
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The price of wheat is always better when we have import parity.
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- leics/warks border
Like most charities they began for all of the right reasons.
Cruelty to animals must not be tolerated, but it is subjective. What one person believes is cruel does not not cross that line for another.
But like most charities it has become a self serving job creation scheme.
betweenthelines
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RSPCA and other people and groups like PETA and vegans really need to be challenged on their Achilles Heel.
Which is: What is their "vision" for non farmed domesticated animals?
Housing a cow in a cubicle shed is not a lot different from keeping a domesticated wolf descendant (or "dog" if you prefer) in a three bed semi with only limited exercise. Similarly, should all domesticated horses be turned out on the moors to fend for themselves?
Or is the plan that all dogs, cats, and horses along with farmed animal be shot? I'd really like these organisation's spokes people to answer that on prime time TV.
Which is: What is their "vision" for non farmed domesticated animals?
Housing a cow in a cubicle shed is not a lot different from keeping a domesticated wolf descendant (or "dog" if you prefer) in a three bed semi with only limited exercise. Similarly, should all domesticated horses be turned out on the moors to fend for themselves?
Or is the plan that all dogs, cats, and horses along with farmed animal be shot? I'd really like these organisation's spokes people to answer that on prime time TV.
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- Exeter, Devon
You don’t like them then?
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- Essex
Hold on, this is getting unnecessarily devisive.
Actually, this is a problem of civilisation. We happen to be specialists in growing food or commodities so that other people can work in widget factories, hospitals or whatever. It's not a farmer created problem. Everyone is guilty by association.
If society at large decides they don't want to support a product or method of production, then that's what we'll ultimately go along with. Presumably there would be lots of "free to a good home" livestock around if everyone stopped buying.
What I would like to see publicised more is that feed barley, one of our "great exports" goes to feed a load of camels and goats in oil rich dessert countries. So all the carbon footprint from all the diesel, fertiliser, loss of som through cultivations, harvesting, storage and transport goes to feed a load of methane belching ruminants somewhere else. What's the point of that when we (rightly) are so worried about what we are doing here?
Actually, this is a problem of civilisation. We happen to be specialists in growing food or commodities so that other people can work in widget factories, hospitals or whatever. It's not a farmer created problem. Everyone is guilty by association.
If society at large decides they don't want to support a product or method of production, then that's what we'll ultimately go along with. Presumably there would be lots of "free to a good home" livestock around if everyone stopped buying.
What I would like to see publicised more is that feed barley, one of our "great exports" goes to feed a load of camels and goats in oil rich dessert countries. So all the carbon footprint from all the diesel, fertiliser, loss of som through cultivations, harvesting, storage and transport goes to feed a load of methane belching ruminants somewhere else. What's the point of that when we (rightly) are so worried about what we are doing here?