Yes 15m along the ditch it enters a sewer
River Lugg, Herefordshire
- Thread starter hootbe
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- Scottish Highlands
Yes, probably different. I'll leave it to you if you are interested! It worked for me even though it may possibly have been misinterpreted.! The Councils in Scotland certainly have powers to intervene if domestic dwellings are threatened and, I suspect, it is also the same in England.
Land Drainage Act - Wikipedia
TheTallGuy
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- Cambridgeshire
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-55586557
Apparently flooding is down to landowners not clearing the rivers!
Apparently flooding is down to landowners not clearing the rivers!
Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
Along the Great Ouse? That is a new one to me and certainly not what the EA site mentions about main rivers!
TheTallGuy
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- Cambridgeshire
It's someone's fault & since the EA are perfect it can't be them! You only have to see how they try and deflect responsibility for conflicting flood information.
How do they continually get away with all the crap they say about looking into it
collecting data etc etc etc
you don’t need a weatherman to tell you when it’s phishing on your head
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
To be fair it's not the EA quoted as saying that, it's a councillor (who often don't fully understand the intricacies of what they are talking or even voting about in my past river experience). Nobody reasonable would expect the adjoining landowners to maintain the Great Ouse!
I was involved in the review of the 1998 floods. The flood warnings then failed because the flood was so much higher than past records that the flood warning outstations upstream of Bedford had their power supplies (including backups) knocked out by the rising floodwater so they incident room was running blind. There is no excuse if the same has happened again.
TheTallGuy
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- Cambridgeshire
If one does not clear leaves out of roof gutters they over flow!!!! For goodness sake surely the same applies to rivers, “over time debris /silt will build up and they will overflow”, for goodness sake just plain common sense
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- Scottish Highlands
Why not?
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- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
The cost is disproportionate. It's a big river (in UK terms)!
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Doesn't mean debris caused the flood though? And if it hangs up on a bridge then, if the EA don't clear it it's the bridge owner (usually Highways) who have the responsibility.
In big channels it takes some very big debris to have a significant effect on water levels unles it blocks a bridge. Channels under about 3M wide are a different matter.
In big channels it takes some very big debris to have a significant effect on water levels unles it blocks a bridge. Channels under about 3M wide are a different matter.
I wrote somewhere earlier, they blame farmers for silt building up in rivers/streams etcIf one does not clear leaves out of roof gutters they over flow!!!! For goodness sake surely the same applies to rivers, “over time debris /silt will build up and they will overflow”, for goodness sake just plain common sense
if they cleaned the ditches regular the silt wouldn’t get to t rivers or even better pay the farmers to clean the ditches
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- Scottish Highlands
The width of the river doesn’t really affect the length of the river bank though, does it? Keeping trees tidy should surely fall to the bank owner. Sure, dredging isn’t fair, but bank maintenance (lack of) seems to cause a lot of the issues and I’d place that firmly with the adjoining landowners.
Banks used to always be well maintained by the rivers authority
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- Scottish Highlands
The landowner pays for that, yes? I can see why you guys would be disappointed that it wasn’t being done.
Up here, I maintain my own water courses and drainage, so the blame would be mine without doubt. If I was there, I’d be maintaining mine too, as much as I was permitted to do.
Thanks for the likes. When I get time I will email EA quoting my post, and I will say at the end , “that those that can’t understand what I am saying must be as thick as two short planks”.If one does not clear leaves out of roof gutters they over flow!!!! For goodness sake surely the same applies to rivers, “over time debris /silt will build up and they will overflow”, for goodness sake just plain common sense
Ninjago
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- south shropshire
And we all know that the gutter has to be cleaned out all the way to the downspout to be effective.If one does not clear leaves out of roof gutters they over flow!!!! For goodness sake surely the same applies to rivers, “over time debris /silt will build up and they will overflow”, for goodness sake just plain common sense
Years ago in Yorkshire it used to be Yorkshire water authority fil worked there all his days they took pride in their work back then
Exfarmer
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- Bury St Edmunds
But farmers do already pay for the river maintenance. It is called drainage rates!
we used to farm over 2 miles of river banks, some single, some double sided. In places the riverwas 80 feet wide, would have stretched the old McConnel a bit
Thankfully in those days the Great Ouse River Authority would turn up with a big drag line. There were plenty of places where it is only practical to maintain a large river from one side.
There are many more issues such as the back ditches which , where the water is fed under the main stream below the local weir. This is frequently serious engineeering on other people‘s property. Only someone with statutary powers can organise
we used to farm over 2 miles of river banks, some single, some double sided. In places the riverwas 80 feet wide, would have stretched the old McConnel a bit
Thankfully in those days the Great Ouse River Authority would turn up with a big drag line. There were plenty of places where it is only practical to maintain a large river from one side.
There are many more issues such as the back ditches which , where the water is fed under the main stream below the local weir. This is frequently serious engineeering on other people‘s property. Only someone with statutary powers can organise
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