Dealer having a laugh

DrDunc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
Nonsense.....the depreciation alone would be more than that !!!!!
Sold an 8 year old 100hp Renault Ceres in 2010 that had 5000 hours that I'd put on it from new. Bought for £18k, sold for £12k.

Dealer serviced at correct intervals total cost £6500 parts and labour, tyres £2400, gearbox repair (tractor split) including new main and PTO clutch £3500, battery £70, tandem oil pump £140.

Total cost of ownership £18500, or £3.70 per hour.
 
Sold an 8 year old 100hp Renault Ceres in 2010 that had 5000 hours that I'd put on it from new. Bought for £18k, sold for £12k.

Dealer serviced at correct intervals total cost £6500 parts and labour, tyres £2400, gearbox repair (tractor split) including new main and PTO clutch £3500, battery £70, tandem oil pump £140.

Total cost of ownership £18500, or £3.70 per hour.
with the numbers you quote that means depreciation is 1.20+R&M is 1.30+insurance is 0.60+interest on capital(money earned if 18k put in savings account is 1.90 so total...4.00 so we concur..for a 100hp tractor... glasshouse talking about a 160hp tractor..for 1 pound a hour more than a 100hp unit..yeah right.
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
with the numbers you quote that means depreciation is 1.20+R&M is 1.30+insurance is 0.60+interest on capital(money earned if 18k put in savings account is 1.90 so total...4.00 so we concur..for a 100hp tractor... glasshouse talking about a 160hp tractor..for 1 pound a hour more than a 100hp unit..yeah right.
I was only talking about depreciation.
You can argue the toss over a pound either way but it was still a fraction of todays money.
I did a few very good deals at £3/h
 
I was only talking about depreciation.
You can argue the toss over a pound either way but it was still a fraction of todays money.
I did a few very good deals at £3/h
You weren't only talking about depreciation..you also included R&M costs?.....I'm not arguing the toss. I concurred/agreed with your numbers?......what I questioned was the ability to RUN 160hp tractors for a fiver an hour..even before 2010?
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
You weren't only talking about depreciation..you also included R&M costs?.....I'm not arguing the toss. I concurred/agreed with your numbers?......what I questioned was the ability to RUN 160hp tractors for a fiver an hour..even before 2010?
Tractors here were a whole lot cheaper than in nz
The tm range never gave much trouble, unlike the new ones
 

FrasseSweden

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Sweden
Dealers over valuing the trade-in only to inflate the price on the new one is the oldest trick in the book, I would never have thought that anyone here wouldn't know of it but I guess I was wrong..



Case use rated hp as the yardstick ratqher than the max hp everyone else does, so while it's 145 base at 1800 rpm it's 13q5 at 2200..
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We live under 2 hours away from Haparanda, maybe it's time to start to look to the other side of the border. :scratchhead:
I not sure how it work, but i buy a Mf 7620 i Norway and it was easy to import to Sweden. So i think for you it must be easy to buy in Sweden, we are you both in EU. And with you have euro and swedish crown is low, so you can do good buy here i think. Then you live long north up and I can think you have a lot of snow and cold now, and nearly evry year it must be hard. I live in the west Sweden but is terrible when is be - 20 here but for you is evry day temp, so all respect from me 🙌
 
If tractors were cheaper in nz why would you ship them there?
And by the way i export machinery to nz too
We imported New, British built tractors...spec for spec they were sold to end users at less money than those being sold in the UK....there were a number of reasons....including exchange rates, purchasing power and warranty consideration and specialised freight deals
 

glasshouse

Member
Location
lothians
We imported New, British built tractors...spec for spec they were sold to end users at less money than those being sold in the UK....there were a number of reasons....including exchange rates, purchasing power and warranty consideration and specialised freight deals
I wasnt talking about new tractors
Thats a totally different ballgame
 

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