To be fair they weren’t complaining just stating fact. They have had it good and the pendulum has now swung the other way. Such is life.
Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker
- Thread starter TFF
- Start date
- Location
- Mendips Somerset
your missing the point , you need those assets to do a job , you cant farm without stock , land or machinery , if you start selling the family silver there is only one way it will end up .
harperfarmer
Member
Why all the dick swinging on here about who's been farming sheep the longest and who can draw fat lambs/cattle the best? Just scrolled through about 5 pages which contained about 2 solid prices for next week, the rest were just assumptions and guesses. Meadow Quality paying £2.20/kg steers and £2.10/kg heifers for stores approx 400/420kg R/U grade.
harperfarmer
Member
ABP £5.45 lambs this week
- Location
- North Yorkshire
A realistic price to have any profit finishing them but sadly I don’t think they’ll buy any at that. If they can they can send some my way. Stores are completely wrong in markets at the minute. Where’s my tin hat.....
Was thinking the same but the market averages have been £2.40 + up here.
I bet 80% of the population would, I know folk who work 12 hours a day at the end of the month after they have paid their rent for their 2 bedroom flat and bills they are lucky to have £200 spare.
Nah disagree with 80% most people wouldn't be able to deal with the fact that there is nothing around to do at least. And working on averages I believe the average salary is over £30k now if that's right. And I totally get there are people that work hard just to pay the bills. Just farming never stops 7 days a week.
Hilly
Member
- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Yes just seen a job advertised , Socail worker 39 quid a hr makes sheep look cheap !
lloyd
Member
- Location
- Herefordshire
And I know people who earn £250 a hour so what.
Should livestock farmers aspire to reach the bottom
just so they can keep the wheels turning and profitability
of those they supply?
I've happily reduced breeding ewe numbers ,as there are
far easier and less time consuming alternative options available.
harperfarmer
Member
Woolless
Member
- Location
- Berwickshire, Scottish Borders
As @Jackov Altraids posted, farmers in general are producing commodities round about COP. Meanwhile, despite low food prices, there are folks in full-time work relying on food banks to get by and many others that are hand to mouth.
The question is, who benefits from all this underpriced labour and cheaply produced food?
One thing in their favour is weighbridge weight as opposed to market weight though for sellers point of view,funny how markets can seemingly weigh stores better than fat on same scales ,I suppose 25 kg off a bunch instead of a single may be their answer
livestock 1
Member
£130 prime lambs would equal to £62 in 1992Chill my friend.
I've been sheep farming all my life and I'm 51. Only been selling my own since 99 so obviously I know nothing.
My point is simply you have to compare like with like. Its easy to pick top prices, but I simply asked if you were comparing top prices then with average now?
Good prices are welcome, but I'm in the camp that struggles to see our customers keen to buy lamb when it gets to £150+ and think they will look elsewhere, so making it hard to maintain prices much in excess of that.
Happy to be proved wrong
£62 doesn’t sound that exciting to me even back then it’s hardly record breaking
What is your point? What are you trying to get at ?
livestock 1
Member
Who’s we?
livestock 1
Member
If you are referring to me then I was replying to someone who stated hogg prices were lower in in 1992 than was stated in a mart report. As this is a price tracker and I I have been selling before then up to and including now I thought it would be useful to show reckoning throughout this period.
I hope this helps you understand which thread you are on and what purpose it is intended to serve from now onwards.
harperfarmer
Member
Thanks. The condescending tone of your reply really helped me understand. The clue's in the name, price tracker thread not prices from 40 years ago discussion thread. If you want to discuss the relative impacts of inflation, living costs, meaningful salary values and lamb prices throughout the decades then start a specific thread please.
livestock 1
Member
I didn’t want or intend to be condescending to anyone so apologies for that.
I hope you find this price tracker useful.
I must have missed your prices on here as I don’t seem to recall you putting any on here in any frequency
lloyd
Member
- Location
- Herefordshire
Thanks for the prices you've posted but we're all guilty of
straying off track from time to time including yourself .
harperfarmer
Member
Apology accepted and in turn apologies for being short it's just sometimes quite a pain to try and find any prices and have to trawl through several pages of discussion first . No offence intended.