Culling a cow

roscoe erf

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Livestock Farmer
That post was by the original farmer asking for advice, why would he have thought about that if it hadn't thought he could do it with pop gun of a rifle.


.22 rimfire is a common calibre for captive bolt guns. We have different loads for different size pigs. Presumably there's a cartridge out there for cattle as well.
The wire-jiggling bit is called pithing. It's one of the two ways to legally kill an animal with a bolt gun (the other being bleeding).
Legally speaking, bolt guns are only considered a means of stunning an animal, although in practice they are very effective at killing an animal outright.
 

Montexy

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He didn't say what size 22 it is, I've seen a 22 magnum used due to the remote region in the outback years ago and it dropped an injured heifer in the blink of an eye. That said, I would always get a knacker in and if not then the vet, killing it myself would be the very, very last resort if nothing else was available and only if it was in the best interest of the animals welfare, a lot can go wrong.
 

herman

Member
Mixed Farmer
I understood that cattle were not pithed anymore because of brain stem samples being taken and cross contamination by the pith cane, that was a plastic flexible rod about 18" long. If I remember correctly it was said that it could not be sterilised correctly between cattle.
Seen it done hundreds of times back in the day and thought it was the most humane thing to do.
The cattle were shot with captive bolt or cow puncher as they call it, then they were pithed and bled.
100% dead when the brain gets mashed.
 
I understood that cattle were not pithed anymore because of brain stem samples being taken and cross contamination by the pith cane, that was a plastic flexible rod about 18" long. If I remember correctly it was said that it could not be sterilised correctly between cattle.
Seen it done hundreds of times back in the day and thought it was the most humane thing to do.
The cattle were shot with captive bolt or cow puncher as they call it, then they were pithed and bled.
100% dead when the brain gets mashed.
Pithing is certainly still carried out, I must admit I find it a bit gruesome so prefer not to watch.
Not sure what the score with brain sampling is now, there is a difference between under and over 4 years but I don’t know which it is they sample.
Cows are also given a “tag” when shot which is basically a numbered orange cable tie that is fastened to their leg and corresponds to the paperwork that goes with them.
 

penntor

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Livestock Farmer
Location
sw devon
I have used .22 high velocity in the past to shoot cattle but probably not a 17 year old one. It also states on my Firearms Cert. 'humane destruction of animals'. But it also states deer on my FAC which is, I believe, illegal using a .22 rimfire.

Not sure what the score with brain sampling is now, there is a difference between under and over 4 years but I don’t know which it is they sample.

They sample over 4yrs old, that is what the orange cable marker is for.

I'm afraid I am of the view of others on here, just get the vet in if you are not confident to do the job, you owe it to her.
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
Pithing is certainly still carried out, I must admit I find it a bit gruesome so prefer not to watch.
Not sure what the score with brain sampling is now, there is a difference between under and over 4 years but I don’t know which it is they sample.
Cows are also given a “tag” when shot which is basically a numbered orange cable tie that is fastened to their leg and corresponds to the paperwork that goes with them.
pretty sure its only over 36 months that are tested and if they are worried over cross contamination from the rod what about the bullet
 
Location
Cleveland
I understood that cattle were not pithed anymore because of brain stem samples being taken and cross contamination by the pith cane, that was a plastic flexible rod about 18" long. If I remember correctly it was said that it could not be sterilised correctly between cattle.
Seen it done hundreds of times back in the day and thought it was the most humane thing to do.
The cattle were shot with captive bolt or cow puncher as they call it, then they were pithed and bled.
100% dead when the brain gets mashed.
They are still pithed
 

cull cows

Member
Cattle killed on farm to go on fallen stock are pithed..cattle killed in abattoirs are not pithed and haven’t been since bse in late 90s..
All fallen stock over 48months need brain testing for bse.
 

Werzle

Member
Location
Midlands
The pithe is left in the cow now too, its not the long white rod that the knackerman used to wipe in the straw and chuck back in the cab. They are now half the length with a foam end to contain spillage and left inserted in the head .
 

JX1100U

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Tasmania
Sadly I have a 17year old suckler cow which has been increasingly stiff on her hind legs and so far has not been able to get up today. All her life she has had rapidly growing hind hooves, needing annual trimming and after this years trim, about 3 months ago, she seemed to have difficulty in controlling her hind legs as if she had nerve damage.

It is now the end of the road for her, but the local collection knackers do not put down, only collecting dead livestock.

Question is, can a humane kill be achieved with a .22 rifle using a high speed shell? I've never shot a cow, and am worried that the skull may be too thick to achieve a clean penetration.

Anyone with any experience please?

Cyffylog

I think you answered your own question, if you have never shot a cow before better to get some one with experience to do the job right and show you how its done regardless of what is used.

As for using a .22 in general, that's all my family have used for the last 60 years of farming. Limit your range and know your rifle, large part is being confident in your skills using it. Our mobile butcher basically only uses his .22 and only the .22-250 for large bulls. Never seen a 12 bore used, as our animals are always outside unless they are down couldn't get close enough for it to be effective, and a .22 at close range is just as effective.

Bullet selection would also be important in larger rifles. Neighbour (read as idiot hobby farm) once pumped three rounds of ballistic tipped .243 into his injured bull, it was still walking around, bullets simply explode (as designed) on impact. One shot from my .223 with a soft point round dropped it on the spot. I think we in Australia tend to have access to more rifles, numbers and calibres, then we do shotguns compared to the UK.
 

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