Row cleaners

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I think if you can have row cleaners then you should. Hair pinning is a massive problem for us and we now plant a lot of autumn crops with a tine or after a pass with a kockerling vario.

Have Horsch developed a row cleaner yet? Claas Western hinted that they were working on one. What other drills do you have these days? Still got a Claydon?
 

Cutlerstom

Member
Arable Farmer
How necessary do you think it is to have row cleaners on a disc drill? How much of an issue is hair pinning on disc drills. I have no intention of selling straw to make a disc work so need to make sure I spec properly. I also wonder if hair pinning appears a bigger issue than it actually is?

Thanks

BB
If Weaving came up with a row cleaner for the GD I would buy it. Struggle with 2nd cereals here. After wheat not so bad as you can generally cut stubble higher, but barley is inevitably brackled. We grow linseed and it doesn't like too much depth, and absolutely hates hair pinning, so we really have to cultivate lightly if its going into chopped spring barley stubble. If I was in the market for one drill, it would be a disc drill with row cleaners. You then have the big advantage for weed germ of low disurbance, and still hopefully get a decent establishment instead of needing a spare tine drill!
 

fred.950

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dorset/Wiltshire
Have Horsch developed a row cleaner yet? Claas Western hinted that they were working on one. What other drills do you have these days? Still got a Claydon?
As far as I know they haven’t, last I heard they weren’t even trying on the smaller two row drills. Claydon has gone and we have a sprinter now. Disc drill following chopped spring barley just doesn’t work for us on puffy chalk.
 

juke

Member
Location
DURHAM
More or less same drill bar the tank and a few tweeks. I imagen same row cleaners but may be wrong. I looked at them and it was £10k extra on drill. We are also on close spacing so not much room for straw to pass by. What happens on the rear gang of coulters with twice as much straw piled up?
The row cleaners on the horizon are hydraulic I don't think the ones on the boss drill were but I may be wrong,
 
This is what they would have you believe but the reality is different. I don't know how it does it, but it puts straw and chaff right next to the seed on the shelf. Seen on three different farms on differing soil types. Couldn't believe it the first time I saw it, by the third time I had come to expect it.
Rule number one: all discs hair-pin.

When you have a good resilient soil structure hairpinning reduces massively because the cut of the disc is much better. But it can be grim when the structure is soft

What I like about the 750 is that the firming wheel rams the seed in after and for me it usually pisses down for 6 months so that can help with germination.

I don't deal with a lot of chopped straw but I do deal with some. I would also agree a tine now and again is a useful tool
 

topcat2006

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
The Cotswolds
The row cleaners on the horizon are hydraulic I don't think the ones on the boss drill were but I may be wrong,

The DSX row cleaner is pneumatic and uses a double acting pneumatic cylinder along with the Precison Planting "Cleansweep" controller. It follows the ground well.

The Boss row cleaner used a pneumatic airbag and a spring. The airbag fought against the spring to work and when it got to the point that the airbag was less pressured than the force of the spring it did not work well.
 

juke

Member
Location
DURHAM
The DSX row cleaner is pneumatic and uses a double acting pneumatic cylinder along with the Precison Planting "Cleansweep" controller. It follows the ground well.

The Boss row cleaner used a pneumatic airbag and a spring. The airbag fought against the spring to work and when it got to the point that the airbag was less pressured than the force of the spring it did not work well.
I stand corrected.
 

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