Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

Lambing time is made now a fella once telt me.
I was tipping brinnicombe liquid feed out this morning and it it isnt cheap, but i thought to myself , the ewes have to lamb themselves with plenty milk and 2 strong lambs that get up and suck, we havnt much staff, we'd be spending the money on lambing staff if we didnt spend it now.
Yes all that here as well. We fight on trying to get the lamb crop up that starts in August/September no point in not feeding them we would loose all of the money already spent
 

Old Tip

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Location
Cumbria
Without sounding like Smith too much he was telling me that if it gets over £6 they will have bother selling it then the consequence of that is they loose throughput and end up in a pickle with overheads and men to pay which buggers the job up. Unfortunately we would cop the lot if that happens
The butcher I supply has said if they get over £5 he can’t make it pay, same with boxed lamb. By the time you add the killing and cutting on your looking at £150 which is more than most folk will pay
 

Andrew1983

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Black Isle
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The butcher I supply has said if they get over £5 he can’t make it pay, same with boxed lamb. By the time you add the killing and cutting on your looking at £150 which is more than most folk will pay
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this is something I often think but was taking to a prawn fisherman recently, what he sells fresh prawns for (£18/kg) he was saying is like paying £54/kg for the ready to eat bit.... smoked salmon is £40/kg, why should we worry if lamb is £6/kg.... I know I know people won’t buy it if it’s too dear.... or will they 🤷‍♂️
 
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[QUOTE="Old Tip, post: 7394259, member:
The butcher I supply has said if they get over £5 he can’t make it pay, same with boxed lamb. By the time you add the killing and cutting on your looking at £150 which is more than most folk will pay
this is something I often think but was taking to a prawn fisherman recently, what he sells fresh prawns for (£18/kg) he was saying is like paying £54/kg for the ready to eat bit.... smoked salmon is £40/kg, why should we worry if lamb is £6/kg.... I know I know people won’t buy it if it’s too dear.... or will they 🤷‍♂️
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Trouble is, when the butcher has to pay £6.50/kg, he still gets fudge all for the fat and bones, same as when he pays £5.50/kg. All the extra cost goes into the saleable meat. I used to sell trimmed eye of lamb loin to one retail customer at £54.00/kg. Couldn’t do that now, I am sure.
 

Top Tip.

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Location
highland
The butcher I supply has said if they get over £5 he can’t make it pay, same with boxed lamb. By the time you add the killing and cutting on your looking at £150 which is more than most folk will pay
I think we have to get out of the mindset that people won’t pay for lamb or beef ,they have got used to getting it too cheap. What they spend on a Friday night going out or going to the football on a Saturday makes a piece of lamb look very cheap indeed. If we get our marketing right they will pay whatever it takes .
 

twizzel

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I think we have to get out of the mindset that people won’t pay for lamb or beef ,they have got used to getting it too cheap. What they spend on a Friday night going out or going to the football on a Saturday makes a piece of lamb look very cheap indeed. If we get our marketing right they will pay whatever it takes .

This is true- we sell our boxed lamb for £160 per whole- £35 of that goes on kill cut and vac pack. I won’t put our prices up unless the kill/cut fee goes up, we don’t have a problem shifting lamb boxes. Those regulars we have will still pay £160 for a whole lamb when the market prices are low so we will absorb the price difference this year if high prices continue. If you market it right, you’ll sell it.
 
This is true- we sell our boxed lamb for £160 per whole- £35 of that goes on kill cut and vac pack. I won’t put our prices up unless the kill/cut fee goes up, we don’t have a problem shifting lamb boxes. Those regulars we have will still pay £160 for a whole lamb when the market prices are low so we will absorb the price difference this year if high prices continue. If you market it right, you’ll sell it.
What was the average price dw for the year back 12 months from today?
That’s how to work out your retail prices
The average over a 12 month period is more important than missing a spike especially if that would alienate some of your regular customers
 
Location
Devon
The butcher I supply has said if they get over £5 he can’t make it pay, same with boxed lamb. By the time you add the killing and cutting on your looking at £150 which is more than most folk will pay

Does he really think that £100 quid in the depths of winter is enough for the farmer in this day and age??

He needs a sharp week up call, some feed mills have already put their feed prices up £25t the last couple of weeks with talk of another £25/50 tonne being added in the next few weeks and that is before you add every other farm input is rising in price very fast currently!

This weather is pulling the backs of ewes feeding lambs very badly at the moment, these ewes will need feeding much longer with hard feed into late spring than would normally be the case to get the flesh back onto their backs that they are currently using to rear their lambs, so even thou prices are okay they are nothing special given the massively increased costs/ losses that most farmers are currently having to accept!
I would suggest your butcher takes a course in marketing if he/she can only sell the meat if his supplier aka the farmer sells it to him for practically nothing!
 

Northern territory

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Livestock Farmer
I think we have to get out of the mindset that people won’t pay for lamb or beef ,they have got used to getting it too cheap. What they spend on a Friday night going out or going to the football on a Saturday makes a piece of lamb look very cheap indeed. If we get our marketing right they will pay whatever it takes .
Totally agree, was thinking this earlier, when are the supermarkets ever concerned about us when they order a boat load of New Zealand to undercut our prices.
 

Shebb90

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Location
Devon
How did you get on at SM today young @Shebb90 ??

According to AHDB SQQ was back about 4ppk on the week.
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Not to bad. They seem to want them well fleshed.
47kgs was mules and nothing to look at really, I was pleased with them
And the 41kgs did alright to cos they wasn't over big. And they was wet.
Also a ewe at £105 that I payed £26 for 😁
 

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
This is true- we sell our boxed lamb for £160 per whole- £35 of that goes on kill cut and vac pack. I won’t put our prices up unless the kill/cut fee goes up, we don’t have a problem shifting lamb boxes. Those regulars we have will still pay £160 for a whole lamb when the market prices are low so we will absorb the price difference this year if high prices continue. If you market it right, you’ll sell it.
Was gleaning some information from the net this afternoon.
£159 for half a lamb boxed and delivered.
Strong money that's for sure!
 
Location
Devon
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Not to bad. They seem to want them well fleshed.
47kgs was mules and nothing to look at really, I was pleased with them
And the 41kgs did alright to cos they wasn't over big. And they was wet.
Also a ewe at £105 that I payed £26 for 😁

Good solid trade:)

Lambs that are fine for deadweight are always considered to lean in the live ring, this makes no sense to me as the market lambs will still be knocked on the head the next day but if a farmer had sent the over fleshed lambs direct themselves they would have come back too fat!..

On the ewe, the saying is : you can buy cheap and sell dear/cheap but you cannot buy dear and sell cheap. ( and she was certainly cheap enough when you bought her ).
 

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