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Are Simpson’s making ex Lindsay growers buy seed barley for the contract?
WN Lindsay sold to Simpsons Malt
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Chae1
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Yes.
Chae1
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Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
Why didn't you just buy it from them if your buying in seed anyway?
Chae1
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- Aberdeenshire
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Have you not had the quote yet??
We have dealt with Simpson’s for a number of years and find them good. The annoyance is the seed issue. We fell out with Lindsay several years ago. As you said only shafted once.
Not sure what the spot market price will be this year. They say they are malting as normal and the demand is there.
Chae1
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That's a good point with regards the price. I could get seed cheaper elsewhere also.Grain merchants, Theft , Do those words ever enter the same sentence?
My dressed seed out the heap will cost me £275/t including royalties. There's is over £400/t. Cost me £13/acre more buying seed from them.
Anyway I'll bend over and take it this year. Hopefully they remember that at harvest.
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How are people finding germination? Checked our laureate and Diablo and both were 90%. Have bought some Sassy seed and will be checking that when it gets home. Here the seed companies are struggling.
ollie989898
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Rubbish, loads of people will be growing malting barley around the country and will have home-saved the seed.
Whats "Rubbish",
Merely pointing out how the merchants are trying to justify their stance on buying seed and pointed out to them my present way of purchasing seed covers this.
This isn’t for barley, but my home saved beans, wheat and oats all were around 85-90%. Normally that’s much higher. Even over yeared seed is higher than that!
Chae1
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I think what he's trying to say by traceability is varietal purity. That was what I was told was reason for them wanting to supply seed.
ollie989898
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There is no justification on the grounds of 'traceability'- whoever told you that is fabricating the truth quite frankly. There are plenty of genuine sources for malting barley seed and all of them will be above board because seed in general is a tightly regulated business. That said, there is absolutely nothing to prevent a farmer from saving his own seed and using it to grow a particular variety of malting barley. In fact, given that the farmer will know the cleanliness and provenance of the stuff you could say he has a better chance of controlling or ensuring it's quality than anyone.
ollie989898
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They want to supply the seed because there is obviously a chance to make margin from it which is fair enough, but to suggest other sources of seed are unreliable is absolute pish given the hurdles that many seed producers and processers have to jump though.
Chae1
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Can't get more traceable than this! Never left the farm it will be planted on again.
Been getting seed ready during wintry weather. It's a auger bucket for feeding cows. Other forklift has rds weigher on lift.
