Fendt transmission
- Thread starter Nz grower
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Well, not really. It says in the quote above that it was out of warranty. Delivered to the customer in '14 and warranty then ends '18 (4yrs) with 2800hrs on. D14's mate then buys it at 2800hrs, "Someone" does a transmission service at 3000hrs (as per schedule) and buggers up the transmission. Who's fault is that?
Transmission oil would have been done at 2000 then not due until 4000?
Wellytrack
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And the thread started so well, with Fendts never having transmission problems.....then along came a Fendt with a transmission problem to spoil it.
It’s a fact.
It’s the gap between the warranty ending and the gearbox problem. I can see both sides of the story and I think it should of been a 50:50 share between Fendt and my neighbour.
This is what my neighbour was pushing but that means the original dealer put the wrong oil in the gearbox. Obviously it could happen as it was done at the dealers where they used static oil tanks rather than cans. Easily the wrong stuff could have been pumped in. At least if done on farm the gearbox oil would of arrived in labelled cans.
Anyway it’s happened and sorted but unfortunate set of circumstances.
puntabrava
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- Wiltshire
If the tractor was main dealer serviced and the dealer records showed this then a vario faliure at those hours would be contributed too by fendt. Also I am no expert on oil but they would of needed to send the oil for analysis to discover a viscosity problem which would be unusual conduct @Cowabunga
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- North West Wales
Personally I can’t think which wrong oil could wreck it, it’s two axial piston pumps, a gear change, bearings, differential and about 15 brake discs. If it was filled with engine oil or hydraulic oil the brake discs could break up and go through the system
The oil was sent away for analysis. Apologies thought I'd put that in the original post.
puntabrava
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- Wiltshire
ollie989898
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All seems pretty odd in my mind.
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
The Fendt Vario isn't particularly fussy about the oil, as long as it is good quality. Basically it works with 10W30 to 10W40 and in the UK, no doubt with 15W30 super universal [SUTO or STOU-same thing]. The current recommended oil from AGCO is a 10W40 super universal.
The oil change intervals for this transmission strike me as being a bit too far apart. There are the rear and front axle brakes running in the transmission oil and as a consequence the oil gets very dark and dirty looking way before the recommended oil change interval. I tend to change it, and the main filters, at my convenience as soon as it has served 1000 hours. It may be up to a maximum of 1200 hours, depending on pressure of work in season and when the engine oil needs changing next, but if convenient at anything over 1000 hours, it is dumped and new oil filled.
I'm not sure what 'wrong oil' could be used unless it was plain engine oil which lacks the friction modifiers necessary for wet clutches and the brakes. Surely nobody would use that or ATF to fill or top up the transmission?
The oil change intervals for this transmission strike me as being a bit too far apart. There are the rear and front axle brakes running in the transmission oil and as a consequence the oil gets very dark and dirty looking way before the recommended oil change interval. I tend to change it, and the main filters, at my convenience as soon as it has served 1000 hours. It may be up to a maximum of 1200 hours, depending on pressure of work in season and when the engine oil needs changing next, but if convenient at anything over 1000 hours, it is dumped and new oil filled.
I'm not sure what 'wrong oil' could be used unless it was plain engine oil which lacks the friction modifiers necessary for wet clutches and the brakes. Surely nobody would use that or ATF to fill or top up the transmission?
ollie989898
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It's the same with all this pub talk type discussions: 'I knew a guy whose uncle said, etc'. Tractor suffers a failure that manufacturer won't sort under warranty and apparently a Fendt dealer is to blame etc etc, strikes me as being odd. More to it than we are being told I suspect.
startinghandle
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7 years ago I went on a coach trip to the Leyland Daf factory in Lancashire
afterwards there was a tour of the museum and I was standing in the pope mobile but that's not what I want to say..... there was a guy there who was expert on engines and he said the leyland lorry engine which had block and head cast as one unit was unreliable in this country but in New
Zealand was very successful clocking up huge mileages and the reason was given as you could drive for hours without altering speed so does the same apply to Fendt tractors
Cowabunga
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- Ceredigion,Wales
Engine oil in the transmission, whether in a vario or powershift, should be almost immediately obvious to the driver due to the lack of friction modifiers causing noisy rough brakes sharp take up of the PTO. However there is plenty of lubricity for other components, so it shouldn't cause immediate failure of any. ATF has plenty of friction modifiers and should be OK for a while as well.
All are better than dirty oil and blocked filters.
Use the recommended specification of oil [or 'better' if you know what that is] at all times and service at no greater interval than the maximum recommended and preferably sooner if conditions are harsh.
kiwi pom
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- canterbury NZ
Don't know where he got that from, there's some bad roads and brutal climbs here.
Perhaps the OP's success is down the the fact he buys new and runs them for a long time? The UK tends to fall into, buy new, change regularly or buy second hand. I don't think the average tractor here has as many owners.