MX Loader headstock Geometry

mar · Feb 18, 2021

I have an MX80 loader with a MX headstock and have come across a euro headstock from a newer MX loader being scrapped. I know the pins on the newer loader and 5mm bigger but that could be got around with a sleeve.
I was talking to a MX dealer and he says the geometry isn't right and you will end up bending the rams if you put the newer headstock on the older loader.
Is this correct, what if you put one of them spurious headstocks on, I know the distance between the hole in the bottom of the headstock and the top were the ram connects is the same on the older and newer ones.

Am I missing something obvious, is it possible to bend the rams?

davedb · Feb 19, 2021

The stops welded to the headstock could be different? Unlikely tho I’ve got a mx t12 I can measure if you want?

Fendt820 · Feb 19, 2021

I will have a mx12 headstock for sale in a few weeks if interested.

feilding · Feb 19, 2021

Why change from the MX system. The MX system is far better than the euro system. I've used euro on other people's loaders, not handy compared to MX. can't believe it's so popular, and such small locking pins, I've seen attachments locked on loaders as the pins have bent , and have to be cut out.

nosmokenopoke · Feb 19, 2021

mar said:
I have an MX80 loader with a MX headstock and have come across a euro headstock from a newer MX loader being scrapped. I know the pins on the newer loader and 5mm bigger but that could be got around with a sleeve.
I was talking to a MX dealer and he says the geometry isn't right and you will end up bending the rams if you put the newer headstock on the older loader.
Is this correct, what if you put one of them spurious headstocks on, I know the distance between the hole in the bottom of the headstock and the top were the ram connects is the same on the older and newer ones.

Am I missing something obvious, is it possible to bend the rams?
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Sid · Feb 19, 2021

mar said:
I have an MX80 loader with a MX headstock and have come across a euro headstock from a newer MX loader being scrapped. I know the pins on the newer loader and 5mm bigger but that could be got around with a sleeve.
I was talking to a MX dealer and he says the geometry isn't right and you will end up bending the rams if you put the newer headstock on the older loader.
Is this correct, what if you put one of them spurious headstocks on, I know the distance between the hole in the bottom of the headstock and the top were the ram connects is the same on the older and newer ones.

Am I missing something obvious, is it possible to bend the rams?

We swapped Quickie headstock from 2012 to 2019 model.
I rang Quickie UK to be 100% sure. JIC dealer hadn't.

I would ring MX direct.

DrDunc · Feb 19, 2021

feilding said:
Why change from the MX system. The MX system is far better than the euro system. I've used euro on other people's loaders, not handy compared to MX. can't believe it's so popular, and such small locking pins, I've seen attachments locked on loaders as the pins have bent , and have to be cut out.

I agree the quicke euro brackets aren't very well engineered, but there are an awful lot more attachments for sale on euro if you're not buying new

nelson · Feb 19, 2021

Sid said:
We swapped Quickie headstock from 2012 to 2019 model.
I rang Quickie UK to be 100% sure. JIC dealer hadn't.

I would ring MX direct.

ring direct and ask for carl

Sid · Feb 19, 2021

DrDunc said:
I agree the quicke euro brackets aren't very well engineered, but there are an awful lot more attachments for sale on euro if you're not buying new

We have MX headstock on Quickie loader for that very reason.

3 times as much metal in a MX type pin

davedb · Feb 19, 2021

Yea they picked a shite headstock to standardise really I can think of loads better ones even the old grays Lyncon loader we had was a better setup with two hooks and a 30mm locking pin

mar · Feb 24, 2021

davedb said:
The stops welded to the headstock could be different? Unlikely tho I’ve got a mx t12 I can measure if you want?

I think the stops are different, the bottom bar that the bucket sits against on mine, when it is fully open it curls right round and hits the base of the frame of the loader, on the newer headstock like yours the bar is further out and probably hit the frame at a different place it shouldn't.

mar · Feb 24, 2021

Fendt820 said:
I will have a mx12 headstock for sale in a few weeks if interested.

I've been doing a bit of research this past few days and it's a different headstock and it might not be a good idea to chance it.

mar · Feb 24, 2021

feilding said:
Why change from the MX system. The MX system is far better than the euro system. I've used euro on other people's loaders, not handy compared to MX. can't believe it's so popular, and such small locking pins, I've seen attachments locked on loaders as the pins have bent , and have to be cut out.

The vast majority of used attachments for sale is Euro and if you need the lend of one it's what most people have.

mar · Feb 24, 2021

Sid said:
We swapped Quickie headstock from 2012 to 2019 model.
I rang Quickie UK to be 100% sure. JIC dealer hadn't.

I would ring MX direct.

nelson said:
ring direct and ask for carl

I was on to MX and they are different, but their prices are crazy.

mar · Feb 24, 2021

This is a list of MX loaders that have the Euro headstock I'm after if anyone knows where there is one

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