What a bizarre thread
You go after a salaried job including pension, 72 hour week, 145 cows you have sole responsibility for, any spare time you have you work on the arable or with the 450 beef cattle, go for interview, agree that you take your holiday at lambing time so you can lamb your own ewes, and you have 3 hours off every other Tuesday to go to market , you will agree with them in the autumn dates tups go in so lambing suits them, you have a mortgage on your house, a mortgage on some land you've bought, and a wife and young family, you take the job, they refuse to let you go to market, when lambing comes they laugh in your face and refuse to let you have time off, the pension contributions never materialise, the cows are stocked at over 3 per hectare, ayr calving, genus costed , and in the 8 years I was there we never dropped out of the top 5 in the west midlands area costings. By the time I walked the day after my divorce came through, (surprise surprise) they really did know they'd got me, and were bl.oody glad to see the back of me, but those cows were still done right.aye that’s it nothing to do with just doing my job properly I guess
It'll depend on your staff. Ours all have their own farms at home and come to us on average 4 days a week. If they want to borrow machinery on their days off then we usually work round it and let them have them for the day. Help them if you can. It works well both ways.Beside their salary, do you provide staff with any extra perks?
We do a lot already to make the work places as desirable as possible rubber matting in the parlour, change equipment regularly etc
We started tackling mastitis a few years ago and every time we dropped 5 cases per 100 we got rid of tyres and brought more gravel bags for the silage pit.
This year I've decided to allocate budget to non salary perks. First on the list was branded beanies, caps, jackets etc. I thought maybe buy a whole boxed lamb and share it out. Then next time a pig or get one of those mobile car spa guys to wash everyones cars? Maybe bring the personal financial advisor I use in to speak to everyone?
Anyone got any good ideas?
You go after a salaried job including pension, 72 hour week, 145 cows you have sole responsibility for, any spare time you have you work on the arable or with the 450 beef cattle, go for interview, agree that you take your holiday at lambing time so you can lamb your own ewes, and you have 3 hours off every other Tuesday to go to market , you will agree with them in the autumn dates tups go in so lambing suits them, you have a mortgage on your house, a mortgage on some land you've bought, and a wife and young family, you take the job, they refuse to let you go to market, when lambing comes they laugh in your face and refuse to let you have time off, the pension contributions never materialise, the cows are stocked at over 3 per hectare, ayr calving, genus costed , and in the 8 years I was there we never dropped out of the top 5 in the west midlands area costings. By the time I walked the day after my divorce came through, (surprise surprise) they really did know they'd got me, and were bl.oody glad to see the back of me, but those cows were still done right.
So they were pricks to work for if you were that good you could of left and walked into another jobYou go after a salaried job including pension, 72 hour week, 145 cows you have sole responsibility for, any spare time you have you work on the arable or with the 450 beef cattle, go for interview, agree that you take your holiday at lambing time so you can lamb your own ewes, and you have 3 hours off every other Tuesday to go to market , you will agree with them in the autumn dates tups go in so lambing suits them, you have a mortgage on your house, a mortgage on some land you've bought, and a wife and young family, you take the job, they refuse to let you go to market, when lambing comes they laugh in your face and refuse to let you have time off, the pension contributions never materialise, the cows are stocked at over 3 per hectare, ayr calving, genus costed , and in the 8 years I was there we never dropped out of the top 5 in the west midlands area costings. By the time I walked the day after my divorce came through, (surprise surprise) they really did know they'd got me, and were bl.oody glad to see the back of me, but those cows were still done right.
It was a well paid job at that time, there weren't other jobs available in the area which I'd of wanted, lack of confidence was I think the main problem at the start, with hindsight I should have stood my ground.Why in the world would you not think you could do better than that and leave after 8 weeks? I would love to hire commited people like that, but would never treat them anywhere close to this.
Recently saw a very large contracting team (Wilson contracting I think) brag about how if any employee breaks anything they have to pay for the lot - funnily enough they then went on to state that they have a very high turnover of staff cant think whyDoes it work both ways?
Son made a mistake at a place of work.
Wrote off farm truck.
He asked me what to do i said pay the excess so that boss isn't out of pocket.
Other son had his wages deducted when he left a place for minor damages such as a bent bar on a gate, cut on scraper tractor tyre etc. He wasn't the only one that drove the scraper.Recently saw a very large contracting team (Wilson contracting I think) brag about how if any employee breaks anything they have to pay for the lot - funnily enough they then went on to state that they have a very high turnover of staff cant think why
Does it work both ways?
Son made a mistake at a place of work.
Wrote off farm truck.
He asked me what to do i said pay the excess so that boss isn't out of pocket.
Gosh how coincidental... I think at my last work I made two bigger mistakes (not massive but not minor) and I offered to pay for both of them out of guilt but was refused both times.Other son had his wages deducted when he left a place for minor damages such as a bent bar on a gate, cut on scraper tractor tyre etc. He wasn't the only one that drove the scraper.
Funnily it was just enough to take his whole last pay packet!
A cup of tea and cake that i get presented with at milking makes my day every time, if I've had a sh!t milking it makes it 10x better, and if I've had a good milking it's like the icing on the cake! Clothing and mugs etc although nice are just things. In the same way we all get presented with pens and hats from the different ai companies - it doesnt make me want to buy stuff from them any more or any less, what does is the ones who phone and ask how I am, how the calves/heifers are getting on etc.To give a degree of perspective from an outsider looking into another industry my three of my mates are managers one in a nursing home other two in Aldi.
they would mostly earn 36ish k a year. They work anti social hours, are on call at times, contracted for 50 hours a week, expected to be freshly shaven and well presented in the mornings, provided their own trousers and shoes( shoes maybe via choice ie the company may contribute £20) and they have to deal with the public. They each love their jobs but it’s not all the rose tinted glasses we seem to be having people saying it is.
I think the odd unexpected day off doesn’t go a mis. Or the odd milking where you tell them you’ll finish off. I don’t buy into this whole you have to give things or spend money to make people feel valued, their salary should cover that. It’s the small gestures that work.
Was he self employed.Other son had his wages deducted when he left a place for minor damages such as a bent bar on a gate, cut on scraper tractor tyre etc. He wasn't the only one that drove the scraper.
Funnily it was just enough to take his whole last pay packet!
It was in the contract, even though he is adamant he didn't do it.Was he self employed.
If not unless there was a written contract the employer was bang out of order.
I don’t think legally there is a way around it is there? With employed people I think unless you can prove it’s malicious damage I don’t think you can make them pay for one pennies worth. I’d be interested to know if I’m wrong though. Having spent many thousands repairing things also!It was in the contract, even though he is adamant he didn't do it.
I learnt my lesson on that as well with thousands of damage that someone self employed just walked away from!
Having spoken to an advisor they said there was nothing that he could do!I don’t think legally there is a way around it is there? With employed people I think unless you can prove it’s malicious damage I don’t think you can make them pay for one pennies worth. I’d be interested to know if I’m wrong though. Having spent many thousands repairing things also!
Damn, you are right, we’ve a third world country here with low pay, fake degrees and no opportunity. Please spread the message far and wide.All the perks I mentioned are from food processing businesses, and are applicable to warehouse, processing, packing and drivers as well as office based workers, but most are available from most large employers.
TBH, I think the lack of perks that your friends and relatives have says more about the way the US economy is run than anything else. Everyone in the UK has free healthcare at the point of use, do most employers provide medical insurance, or does that come out of "take home" pay?
EU has done great work in the past to improve workers terms and conditions, and parity in this was a big problem when negotiating a post Brexit trade deal, with the EU not wanting to compete against goods from the UK produced by workers with lower pay, conditions etc.
And a US "degree" is hardly comparable to one earned in the UK.
From what you say, it's not just the far East that employ staff under poorer conditions than the UK.