I read yesterday that certain chicken products have been withdrawn from supermarkets in the UK as they have been linked to a number of salmonella cases, some resulting in death.. All of these products have been traced to a number of production units in Poland. Is there a case for an EU import restriction and a requirement for chlorine washing perhaps?
EU chlorinated chicken perhaps?
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M-J-G
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Do it here too?
Doesn't bother me, I rarely eat poultry.
Doesn't bother me, I rarely eat poultry.
I did not mean chlorinate UK chicken under the present circumstances but the EU clearly cannot uphold their own animal welfare and food health standards without resorting to a backup solution. Poland has been found wanting before but often only as a result of whistle blowers. Our standards are clearly higher than EU standards in practice, never mind what their manual says.
M-J-G
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I know what you meant, but if we all do it then everyone is the same and they are safe, and we can import from America instead of the EU without any disputes.
Can't we just stop taking EU stuff if it's inferior? Wasn't that part of the freedom of leaving?
We always had the option to buy outside the EU but remainers on here made the point that we would be flooded out with US chlorinated chicken. They and many Eurocrats point to the fact that we no longer meet their standards. The point I am making is that their standards are not well enforced amongst their members and never have been, with the possible exception of a few countries, the UK being one. Now we are suddenly treated as as if we are unwashed and they are holier than thou..
Quite right too.
Poland’s Salmonella poultry problem continues
A variety of European countries have issued nearly 100 warnings about Salmonella in chilled and frozen poultry from Poland since the start of March this
www.foodsafetynews.com
M-J-G
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I'd personally be very slow to claim the high ground on that one, the next food scare/disgrace could belong to us and may not be far round the next corner.
Green houses and stones and all that...
Thanks M-J, that's really what my unduly flippant silly comment was about. Just assuming that I am not capable of mistakes and bad management is usually the surest way of causing mistakes and practising bad or careless management
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Was your last business in vegetable seeds?
My wife is struggling to source seeds and tells me sales are up over three times due to the pandemic!
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What makes you believe that you no longer meet EU standards? Have your standards dropped now that you are no longer a member?
What has happened is that you are no longer a member of the EU or part of a Customs Union therefore you are subject to the same criteria as every other third country, why is that so difficult to understand?
I spent almost my entire working life involved in field vegetable production including about 40 years in the seed industry. The domestic packet seed industry does not serve the hobby gardener well in most instances as it is not governed by the same quality rules that govern the commercial suppliers. Most of the packet trade sell the commercial trade failures and cast offs, in terms of viability, purity and commercial appeal. The major cost involved in selling small packets is in packaging, distribution and wastage. Unsold seed one year is not worth repackaging.
That does not answer your question and unless you have a friend in commercial veg seeds your choice will be poor in every respect. I suffer the same problems as your wife perhaps. I have imported commercial seed from France, mainly carrots from Vilmorin, but that pretty well sums it up. Because most commercial seed is now F1 hybrid the commercial distribution can be , and is, highly regulated.
In the UK, Kings Seeds (Kelvedon) are more reliable than some or you could try Dutch companies like Bakker. Another possibility is the Royal Horticultural Society(RHS) though the range is limited. For smallholders rather than gardeners , Elsoms of Spalding sell grower`s packs of good commercial quality which can be broken down, and often are by gardening clubs and societies.
Did I say that?
Chlorine is easily driven off by cooking as it is, simply put, a gas dissolved in water. I would imagine that the rinsing of lettuce is by surface spraying with a dilute solution of sodium hypochlorite which is used for sterilising baby`s bottles.
Point, allow me to introduce Missed. Even if you are happy to wash off, ignore or whatever with the chlorine, the point is that it is used to disguise any number of other factors contributing to a pretty crap product.
We know this but nobody much is going to pay the true cost of raising a chicken properly when they are 3 for a tenner in Tesco. It's sad but true.
I was suggesting a solution for the EU whose member, Poland, persists in exporting pretty crap products.