BLIND HATRED AND SCORN FOR FOOD PROVIDERS

Martin Holden

Member

Trade

Location

Cheltenham

• Feb 26, 2021

• #21

Danllan said:

Are they dropping the rocks only in areas from which fishing with nets has been banned?

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Not sure that's relevant. No one should be dumping anything in the sea, no matter what. Ships sometimes sink, containers and cargo sometimes lost, but deliberate dumping even rocks is absolutely environmentally not on! NB I'm mot sure granite rocks would do any harm, but these idiots are not helping their cause one bit. However they get TV time, which they don't deserve with these acts

 

Swarfmonkey

Member

Location

Hampshire

• Feb 26, 2021

• #22

It's damaging, that's for sure.

I just can't believe that Greenpeace did something that's so fundamentally stupid. They are making what is already a bloody risky job even more so.

 

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Ashtree

Member

• Feb 26, 2021

• #23

Others will get ideas from this, and start planting hard obstacles silage crops!

 

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The Seeker

Member

• Feb 26, 2021

• #24

one chap said it right , no one will stand up to them. i agree that drag fishing is bad but dropping boulders isn't the way

 

chickens and wheat

Member

Mixed Farmer

Location

Boroughbridge, york

• Feb 26, 2021

• #25

is that not organised fly tipping?

 

Humble Village Farmer

Member

BASE UK Member

Location

Essex

• Feb 26, 2021

• #26

I can't see the problem if they are only putting them in the no fish zones. Maybe if the fishermen kept out of there in the first place it wouldn't have happened.

 

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digger64

Member

• Feb 26, 2021

• #27

Ashtree said:

Others will get ideas from this, and start planting hard obstacles silage crops!

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this was really the point of putting up the post , where does this end ?
or is giving the go ahead for the beginning ?
where ,wether or how they should be fishing is not the issue , its not for them to enforce it , will they be prepared to go down for manslaughter if there is an accident ?

 

Humble Village Farmer

Member

BASE UK Member

Location

Essex

• Feb 27, 2021

• #28

digger64 said:

this was really the point of putting up the post , where does this end ?
or is giving the go ahead for the beginning ?
where ,wether or how they should be fishing is not the issue , its not for them to enforce it , will they be prepared to go down for manslaughter if there is an accident ?

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Humble Village Farmer

Member

BASE UK Member

Location

Essex

• Feb 27, 2021

• #29

Where, whether or how they should be fishing is the issue here. It needs enforcing to stop overfishing.

No fish zones increase fish stocks. But if they are fished out it stops being a no fish zone so it stops working. It's that simple.

And it doesn't matter who enforces it so long as they stop fishing there.

If they keep out of the no fish zones like they're supposed to then there's no risk to anyone's safety from these obstacles.

 

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Top Tip.

Member

Location

highland

• Feb 27, 2021

• #30

Is there actually anyone on this forum who is qualified to comment on these fishermen and how they are fishing.I know I certainly am not. Have any of the posters actually spent a day on a trawler. I would be interested to know.

 

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delilah

Member

• Feb 27, 2021

• #31

Top Tip. said:

Is there actually anyone on this forum who is qualified to comment

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Steady on. You will knacker the bedrock upon which tff is founded.

 

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digger64

Member

• Feb 27, 2021

• #32

Top Tip. said:

Is there actually anyone on this forum who is qualified to comment on these fishermen and how they are fishing.I know I certainly am not. Have any of the posters actually spent a day on a trawler. I would be interested to know.

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This is fair comment ,

Ashtree said:

Others will get ideas from this, and start planting hard obstacles silage crops!

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this what this is about !

 

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traineefarmer

Member

Mixed Farmer

Location

Mid Norfolk

• Feb 27, 2021

• #33

Ashtree said:

Others will get ideas from this, and start planting hard obstacles silage crops!

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Anyone who farms on an urban fringe will already have experienced this. We have some field adjacent to a large village and have had short lengths of rebar hammered into the ground in a barley crop. Probably in retaliation for repairing the playing field fence to stop the locals from taking a shortcut across two fields.

 

Clive

Staff Member

Arable Farmer

Location

Lichfield

• Feb 27, 2021

• #34

digger64 said:

Just watched bbc news greenpeace dropping boulders in the English channel to wreck fishing gear - looks really dangerous to me .
Why are these people above the law ? so confident about it ?
Whats next angle iron in the maize rows ?

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is it illegal to drop a rock in the sea ?

I admire the fact they are prepared to get off their ass and do something about what they believe is a bad situation

 

Clive

Staff Member

Arable Farmer

Location

Lichfield

• Feb 27, 2021

• #35

Top Tip. said:

Is there actually anyone on this forum who is qualified to comment on these fishermen and how they are fishing.I know I certainly am not. Have any of the posters actually spent a day on a trawler. I would be interested to know.

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agree - its probably a bit like listening to vegans talk about livestock farming !

 

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bluebell

Member

• Feb 27, 2021

• #36

whos overfishing in our waters?

 

Tarw Coch

Member

Location

Bottom of Wats Dyke

• Feb 27, 2021

• #37

Humble Village Farmer said:

And it doesn't matter who enforces it so long as they stop fishing there.

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That’s starting a dangerous precedent, why stop with fishing, why not role it out to other laws, who needs official law enforcement, lets all become vigilantes

 

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digger64

Member

• Feb 27, 2021

• #38

Clive said:

is it illegal to drop a rock in the sea ?

I admire the fact they are prepared to get off their ass and do something about what they believe is a bad situation

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so if you didnt like hsb2 you would support dropping boulders on the track from the bridge then ?

 

Clive

Staff Member

Arable Farmer

Location

Lichfield

• Feb 27, 2021

• #39

digger64 said:

so if you didnt like hsb2 you would support dropping boulders on the track from the bridge then ?

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dropping boulders on hs2 would be illegal

i don’t think dropping rocks in the sea is

the op asked “ why are these people above the law ?” I don’t think they are, they just are not breaking any laws ?

 

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digger64

Member

• Feb 27, 2021

• #40

Clive said:

dropping boulders on hs2 would be illegal

i don’t think dropping rocks in the sea is

the op asked “ why are these people above the law ?” I don’t think they are, they just are not breaking any laws ?

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according to the news they are , but if this type of thing is acceptable to people
then were does it end ? who will insure the risk ?