The ever efficient North Yorkshire police have only just requested my shotgun licence having moved here last July for amendment. I wrote a covering letter at their request, declaring that I have a secure cabinet installed for safe storage because I doubt that they will ever inspect it unless something goes wrong.
Firearms Licensing
- Thread starter CornishTone
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PDE1
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- Location
- East Sussex
You download the doctors form but the rest you fill out on line, they say it takes 20 minutes but you can’t save it as you fill it in so if you can’t complete it in one go you start again.
Think they brought the GP requirement in beginning of November. I sent mine in on the 5th of November and it was sent back saying I needed to get a GP to fill in an extra form . To get slapped with a £100 GP fee after for ticking a few boxes was a hard pill to swallow. And now knowing that most of you are paying a lot less for it is like chewing on old socks .
In Gwent it was earlier than that, and I had to cough up £120, so your not the most expensive
- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
£60 Flat fee
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farmerm
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- Location
- Shropshire
Given how things are.. how soon should one apply for a renewal, West Mids region?
I feel a bit better now . Thank you jayIn Gwent it was earlier than that, and I had to cough up £120, so your not the most expensive
As early as possible, as more and more police forces are tagging the Dr Signatory on, and this is because so many people are telling porkies about their health, so cannot really blame the police.
The problem come via more and more Dr Surgeries refusing to complete them as they do not like people owing guns... Personal views getting in the way of someone else's life...
farmerm
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- Location
- Shropshire
and how early is early is possible...? Do I pre-empt a renewal notification letter? I think mine is up in August.
I feel a bit better now . Thank you jay
My licenses are still not in my possession unfortunately, and I sent them in and paid in September 2020, but fortunately I have been advised by the Police all is approved.
It was the Dr's that dragged it out...
As said above, I sent mine in September 2020, and I have not received them yet, but I know all is OK as the FO has advised me all good.
Personally I will never use own Dr again, and use the above mentioned org.
farmerm
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- Location
- Shropshire
I read you dont need to return your old ones as the "need to buy ammunition and to show lawful possession means that the expiring certificate is not available"... and they should send you a temporary permit in the event of a delayed certificate....
Yes true, but in my situation it was slightly different, my licenses expired due to the time taken by the Dr's, I was given temporary ones from the Police to cover me without any fuss, then they simply sent me an update via email to confirm they had extended them again until the FO could pick up my case.
From the support from the FO / back office staff, if I needed to buy Ammunition - I could have asked for another paper copy, and been given it easily - but I was not in need so didn't ask. All I need do - is send our old expired ones back to them after receiving your new ones.. So I am currently not in possession of paper copies - but I am recorded on their system. Just waiting the new certs to be delivered.
From my dealings, All the issues really do come from the Dr's who are visibly not very happy about having to do these reports and some are becoming millitant abstainers - hence the increasing costs from them and the delays they are causing. The FO's are / have been extremely good from my experience, and I cannot fault them, plus the back office staff being extremely supportive.
A lot of the issues with re-certs / grants - is that people are for some reason trying to hide current and former health issues from the FO's, so they are inadvertantly forcing the Police to use of the Dr's to confirm the health status of individuals, so we see the issues caused by the ones who do not provide accurate history..
Mickeydredd
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They do not differentiate between legally/illegal held firearms in the official statistics
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Well, they wouldn't, would they? They just want them all done away with. Remember that demonstration initiated by the Rev, Ian Paisley when he had all his followers flourish their firearms certificates at a public meeting? I bet there were a few in authority wetting themselves then!
Mickeydredd
Member
The attached is a little analysis I did on rifles (their terminology but means centrefire and excludes air weapons) only for the 12 months to March 2018. As you can see, regardless of whether they were legally owned or not, the numbers are minimal (2 fatalities and 10 injuries) - also note that there is a good chance most of these were self-inflicted!
Compare this to the number of incidents using knifes in the table below and it is quite clear where a doctor's report is more necessary!!
Compare this to the number of incidents using knifes in the table below and it is quite clear where a doctor's report is more necessary!!
- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
Compare those stats with car accident related casualties. Should ban cars and knives and give everybody a gun
Mickeydredd
Member
Indeed, the total deaths resulting from firearms is pretty small too, relatively speaking.
| Table 4: Offences recorded by the police in which firearms were reported to have caused injury, by degree of injury and type of principal weapon, year ending March 20181,2 | |||||
| England and Wales | |||||
| Principal weapon | Total | Fatal injury | Serious injury3 | Slight injury | |
| Number of offences | |||||
| Shotguns | 657 | 10 | 100 | 54 | |
| Handguns | 2,861 | 14 | 132 | 207 | |
| Other firearms excluding air weapons | 3,003 | 5 | 77 | 739 | |
| All firearms excluding air weapons | 6,521 | 29 | 309 | 1,000 | |
| Air weapons | 2,898 | 1 | 34 | 262 | |
| All firearms | 9,419 | 30 | 343 | 1,262 | |
| Source: Police recorded crime, Home Office | |||||
| 1. Police recorded crime data are not designated as National Statistics. | |||||
| 2. Injuries could be caused by either the firearm being fired or used as a blunt instrument. | |||||
| 3. A serious injury is one which requires a stay in hospital or involves fractures, concussion, severe general shock, penetration by a bullet or multiple shot wounds. |
- Location
- Scottish Highlands
Considering the loss of firearms could mean the loss of livelihood with no other proof than a complaint from someone alleging they'd been threatened, the current situation is outrageous.