As we have told the NFU that we will not renew our membership as long as they ignore our unhappiness with what the Grain Assurance has become,my son and I would be happy to contribute that subscription to a fighting fund to challenge this over arrogant set up.If only people would threaten the same,then hitting the NFU where it hurts in the pocket might focus their minds .
The Red Tractor ACCS referendum
- Thread starter Clive
- Start date
- Location
- Essex
Ask a policeman if an MOT either ensures or guarantees a vehicle's roadworthiness
Feldspar
Member
- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
Here is the link to the consultations: https://redtractor.citizenspace.com/consultation_finder/.
- Location
- Buckinghamshire
I have done the first one but it wont let me do the second part
- Location
- Cirencester
Probably because they know you're a right troublemaker!!!
- Location
- South Lincolnshire
I did the consultation, but was staggered that it was in the form of a survey. Thought it would be much more in depth, with more opportunities to give my own responses, not just answering their own questions. A nonsense. I also separately asked RT how they would weight the individual farmers' responses. The answer was that TACs would "look" at all individual responses, but that responses made by organisations would carry more weight. Surprise, surprise.
the consultation is utterly dreadful, leading questions, boastful and clearly more of an announcement / justifcation than a consultation
can’t believe the NFU are even giving it any credence frankly. they are surely better than this ?
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Said exactly the same to the NFU people I have been in touch with over the past few days. Much like like the NFU's "independent" webinar, just more PR puff for the RT ego massaging process.
I have been pleasantly surprised that the anger and annoyance seen here at RT and the NFU leadership's stance, is also being questioned and disagreed with, more and more at lower levels of the NFU. Maybe MB will listen to them....
As I pointed out when I was told that Minette Batters had made positive noises about change at RT, it took an awful lot of shouting for her to hear the Membership!!!!
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Had an email today from my Red Tractor inspector asking would I like to do my inspection now instead of my usual date of late June before all the new 2021 regulations come into force. Sounds like to me Red Tractor already have made their mind up on the new regs . This consultation period is just a smoke screen to make us feel like we have had a say. They will probably say that the majority are in favour of the new regs which will what they tell us to shut us up. These are coming like it or not we have no control on what happens next.
To me the legal route is the only way? They are out of control
To me the legal route is the only way? They are out of control
- Location
- Sedgefield
Thought I’d read it was Nov 1st when the new rules that they have t decided upon yet ( ahem) would start
- Location
- Bedfordshire
I fear you are 100% correct
- Location
- Portsmouth
Are they hoping that the arable farmers start to get busy and don't have time to continue to cause trouble?
Is there a reason why a crowdfunder cant be started now? If for any reason money raised was not used, there must be a mechanism for returning it.....or maybe checking a box to say you are happy donating it to another worthwhile cause?
Is there a reason why a crowdfunder cant be started now? If for any reason money raised was not used, there must be a mechanism for returning it.....or maybe checking a box to say you are happy donating it to another worthwhile cause?
- Location
- Romney Marsh
Perhaps they are trying to sign you up and get your money before the pack of cards come falling down !!
Tell them you won't be joining up after June..........
Feldspar
Member
- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
I was thinking about that, but perhaps worth getting an initial opinion first. Also the question of how to make contributions tax deductible as I think they should be a proper business expense.
I would happily donate on the condition any surplus goes to a Good cause.
- Location
- Portsmouth
There is a site called crowdjustice for raising funds for legal cases.
Feldspar
Member
- Location
- Essex, Cambs and Suffolk
Well said.
Well I've been a member since it's inception, and seen with a sinking heart, the insidious creep of pointless paper work, I am extremely angry with RT over their softly softly approach to the horse meat scandal, I think we are sleep walking into a level of control that will be difficult to live with, especially as a one man band tenant, see some of the new up grades to standards, nothing to do with welfare just the looks of your farm. Clubs are run by their membership and should take notice of them , not become a self serving quango, he who pays the piper calls the tune, Ironically when I could least afford the time , as I am lambing, my health review has taken up 5hrs of my time this week, and £130 plus vat for the vet, and the conclusion, nothing, waste of time and my hard earned money. what is next ? the requirement to employ an environmentalist to advise on my ELMs agreement? we need to draw a line, now.
Hindsight
Member
- Location
- Lincolnshire
Indeed. Just wait until the Red Tractor inspector takes a dislike to your grain store doors.
- Location
- Somerset UK
My inspector took a dislike to my chemical store door, and decided that as it was wood it wasn't fire proof. She told me I had to put a sheet of tin in the inside, this definitely does not make it a fire door, but I only did what I was told by a RT inspector.