EU vaccine role out.

Raider112 · Mar 5, 2021

So now France are considering joining Italy in banning exports of AZ vaccine. How childish can they get?
They kicked off when they couldn't get it and threatened all sorts of retribution, dismissed it as useless, persuaded the population not to use it, have stockpiles of the stuff doing nothing, and now they might refuse to send it to Countries who desperately want it.
This is serious not some game where if we can't have it neither can you.

czechmate · Mar 5, 2021

Raider112 said:
So now France are considering joining Italy in banning exports of AZ vaccine. How childish can they get?
They kicked off when they couldn't get it and threatened all sorts of retribution, dismissed it as useless, persuaded the population not to use it, have stockpiles of the stuff doing nothing, and now they might refuse to send it to Countries who desperately want it.
This is serious not some game where if we can't have it neither can you.

In what way is it serious?

Mouser · Mar 5, 2021

czechmate said:
In what way is it serious?

People dying unnecessarily perhaps?

czechmate · Mar 5, 2021

Mouser said:
People dying unnecessarily perhaps?

Well I was asking? It doesn’t seem serious to the universe, or the planet or even the human race (are we short of people) so again, really, just in what way is it serious?

willy · Mar 5, 2021

They have thrown their rattle out of the pram, now that is serious.

Mouser · Mar 5, 2021

czechmate said:
Well I was asking? It doesn’t seem serious to the universe, or the planet or even the human race (are we short of people) so again, really, just in what way is it serious?

That's my guess.

willy · Mar 5, 2021

Why halt it if it’s not serious. Typical EU bulls**t

le bon paysan · Mar 5, 2021

Raider112 said:
So now France are considering joining Italy in banning exports of AZ vaccine. How childish can they get?
They kicked off when they couldn't get it and threatened all sorts of retribution, dismissed it as useless, persuaded the population not to use it, have stockpiles of the stuff doing nothing, and now they might refuse to send it to Countries who desperately want it.
This is serious not some game where if we can't have it neither can you.

Since January 30th more than 8 million vaccines were shipped from the EU to Britain, a third EU source told Reuters.

Britain has so far prevented the export of AstraZeneca vaccines to the EU, using a UK-first clause in its supply contract with the Anglo-Swedish firm as...

Last 2 paragraphs...

Brussels gloats over vaccine export ban on Oxford jabs to UK

THE European Commission has boasted about its vaccine export controls after it confirmed a vaccine plant in the Netherlands was no longer sending AstraZeneca jabs to Brexit Britain.

www.express.co.uk

Raider112 · Mar 5, 2021

czechmate said:
Well I was asking? It doesn’t seem serious to the universe, or the planet or even the human race (are we short of people) so again, really, just in what way is it serious?

If stockpiling vaccine that could save lives when you don't want it isn't serious I'm not sure what is.

czechmate · Mar 5, 2021

Raider112 said:
If stockpiling vaccine that could save lives when you don't want it isn't serious I'm not sure what is.

Most people are unaffected by the virus, those at risk could lose weight if they chose. Nope, I don’t see a bit of political point scoring over some vaccine as serious

Raider112 · Mar 5, 2021

le bon paysan said:
Since January 30th more than 8 million vaccines were shipped from the EU to Britain, a third EU source told Reuters.

Britain has so far prevented the export of AstraZeneca vaccines to the EU, using a UK-first clause in its supply contract with the Anglo-Swedish firm as...

Last 2 paragraphs...

Brussels gloats over vaccine export ban on Oxford jabs to UK

THE European Commission has boasted about its vaccine export controls after it confirmed a vaccine plant in the Netherlands was no longer sending AstraZeneca jabs to Brexit Britain.

www.express.co.uk

There's one big difference, we are using them

Raider112 · Mar 5, 2021

czechmate said:
Most people are unaffected by the virus, those at risk could lose weight if they chose. Nope, I don’t see a bit of political point scoring over some vaccine as serious

Aye you're right, the last 12 months have been wasted on Covid when we could have been twining about Brexit

le bon paysan · Mar 5, 2021

Raider112 said:
There's one big difference, we are using them

You do know that more people in France have had 2 jabs than the UK ? So fully vaccinated!

czechmate · Mar 5, 2021

Raider112 said:
Aye you're right, the last 12 months have been wasted on Covid when we could have been twining about Brexit

Or other health issues ...

errr, what is this “Brexit” you speak of?

Hindsight · Mar 5, 2021

le bon paysan said:
Since January 30th more than 8 million vaccines were shipped from the EU to Britain, a third EU source told Reuters.

Britain has so far prevented the export of AstraZeneca vaccines to the EU, using a UK-first clause in its supply contract with the Anglo-Swedish firm as...

Last 2 paragraphs...

Brussels gloats over vaccine export ban on Oxford jabs to UK

THE European Commission has boasted about its vaccine export controls after it confirmed a vaccine plant in the Netherlands was no longer sending AstraZeneca jabs to Brexit Britain.

www.express.co.uk

Thanks for the link. Just had a read. Scrolled down to the comments -- as you do. And this was the first comment - been posted 4 minutes. Probably says a lot for the view of EU27 from GB. or should I say EU2 - Gerry and Froggy. Cyprios seem to think helpful to be chummy with UK. But at least they are honest - they want the £sterling.

Simply put ... No country or company outside of the EU can EVER trust any legal contract signed with any company producing vaccines inside the EU.

It is now obvious to the entire global community of Nations that the EU acts arbitrarily, solely on its own behalf and it does not accept legal contracts ... by extension, Treaties (whether trade, financial reciprocation or military alliances ) signed with the EU of 27 countries are meaningless !!!

The EU (& the 27 countries comprising it) is an untrustworthy trading partner and ally and must be viewed and treated as such.

The EU is a danger to World order and is now on the same level as Communist China and Russia as the Rule of Law does not apply unless it suits the unelected EC totalitarian technocrats, bureaucrats and failed politicians that infest its corridors !!!

Hindsight · Mar 5, 2021

le bon paysan said:
You do know that more people in France have had 2 jabs than the UK ? So fully vaccinated!

Arsenal at 11th in the Premier League tonight Man City are top. But of course The Gunners are 'rebuilding the squad'

beefandsleep · Mar 5, 2021

le bon paysan said:
You do know that more people in France have had 2 jabs than the UK ? So fully vaccinated!

I’m not sure that is the case any longer, the number of 2nd doses being administered now is huge.
Also had my text today for my second jab, it will be 8 1/2 weeks from the first. Numbers being vaccinated still seems to be gathering pace. They are doing a phenomenal job and we are starting to see some real progress towards normality. Clinics starting to reopen, non urgent surgeries restarting as critical care beds become more available. Kids back at school Monday, junior and club sports restarting beginning of April.
We can finally start to have some real optimism, I’ve booked tickets with friends to see Pakistan and India play England at Trent Bridge in July/August, can’t wait,

beefandsleep · Mar 5, 2021

Apologies, I’ve looked up the stats and France is about 700,000 ahead if you only take twice vaccinated people into account.
U.K. daily 2nd doses have only just crept above Frances this week at just over 65,000 but still administering 300,000 first doses per day against Frances 100,000.
Running total U.K. 21 million France 3.2 million.
I do think we have chosen the right strategy.

le bon paysan · Mar 5, 2021

Hindsight said:
Thanks for the link. Just had a read. Scrolled down to the comments -- as you do. And this was the first comment - been posted 4 minutes. Probably says a lot for the view of EU27 from GB. or should I say EU2 - Gerry and Froggy. Cyprios seem to think helpful to be chummy with UK. But at least they are honest - they want the £sterling.

Simply put ... No country or company outside of the EU can EVER trust any legal contract signed with any company producing vaccines inside the EU.

It is now obvious to the entire global community of Nations that the EU acts arbitrarily, solely on its own behalf and it does not accept legal contracts ... by extension, Treaties (whether trade, financial reciprocation or military alliances ) signed with the EU of 27 countries are meaningless !!!

The EU (& the 27 countries comprising it) is an untrustworthy trading partner and ally and must be viewed and treated as such.

The EU is a danger to World order and is now on the same level as Communist China and Russia as the Rule of Law does not apply unless it suits the unelected EC totalitarian technocrats, bureaucrats and failed politicians that infest its corridors !!!

Last piece reads
Since January 30 more than 8 million vaccines were shipped from the EU to Britain, a third EU source told Reuters.

Britain has so far prevented the export of AstraZeneca vaccines to the EU, using a UK-first clause in its supply contract with the Anglo-Swedish firm

Brussels gloats over vaccine export ban on Oxford jabs to UK

THE European Commission has boasted about its vaccine export controls after it confirmed a vaccine plant in the Netherlands was no longer sending AstraZeneca jabs to Brexit Britain.

www.express.co.uk

beefandsleep · Mar 5, 2021

The article is full of inconsistency and contradictory statements, awful standard of reporting. Stupid egos and political posturing are causing all the problems. I’m sorry to say the worst ones are on the EU side, the arrogance toward the rest of the world is staggering. One thing the commenter was right about though, trust is gone, no point looking back now.

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