Sustainable Farming Incentive - Pilot Information (including PAYMENT RATES)
- Thread starter midlandslad
- Start date
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
"Knowledge exchange" will be key and should feature heavily in the final scheme imho. Learning from those further down the path collaboratively rather than from paid non-practicing advisers who've just retrained to deliver the latest paying service.
- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Next week, Rodneyclearly only important people do 3hr online meetings
let us know when you have this, the economy and covid 19 all sorted
- Location
- South Molton
Lots of people manage to do 3 1 hr meetings in a day.clearly only important people do 3hr online meetings
let us know when you have this, the economy and covid 19 all sorted
3hrs is totally unproductive, no one I’ve met at defra would dream of doing over an hourat a timework a day
no professional from any organisation I’ve met in the last 12 months would do 3hrs
early in lockdown I did a 3-4hr training thing on zoom, regular breaks etc but it was awful, I hardly slept a wink that night and I don’t think anyone involved got much from it, never again
you have lost my attention at anything over an hour much
- Location
- South Molton
I don't know why your picking a fight with me Clive,
Maybe you hate organic as much as the NFU?
Maybe you hate organic as much as the NFU?
- Location
- South Molton
So why pick on me having a 3 1 hour meetings on the same subject?
Good luck with that.
Good luck with that.
3 different meeting on different subject with different people isn’t the same as 3hr on one thing, but anyway let’s get back on topic
I need more than good luck to go organic viably, hence why I’m not, still an aspiration however, does ANY farmer actually want to spend money on and use synthetic inputs ? Surely those of us that do only do so because it’s currently the most profitable option for our circumstance?
I agree, lots of scope to get that wrong however !
they seem to recognise the value of farmer to farmer knowledge exchange and I hope that’s what they support rather than pay agents and others with little practical experience to lecture !
farmer discussion groups, demo farms and online content ( and forums !!!). Are by far the best ways to do this imo for most
It doesn’t say cover crop it says a cover!
- Location
- South Molton
without paid speakers.
We all have strengths and weaknesses in our businesses.
Discussion group I was involved in with @jondear was brilliant.
Farmer to farmer learning warts and all.
Learn from mistakes as well as successes!
- Location
- Lincolnshire
I was wondering, maybe we could get a capital grant for building a stage coach for tours round the wolds. I could dress up as Farmer Boldwood and doff my cap as they drive past.
Seriously though I’d rather keep a free hand to do as I see fit here. I’m insecticide free here for first time this year. Will I be paid for that? I don’t really care. I’m satisfied with it. A few bags of pollinator mix chucked in the wood and along the watercourse banks and public footpath, a big of direct drilled over wintered stubbles and covers maybe a game strip as well and I think that’s adequate without needing to get the government involved or attend too many “workshops”.
- Location
- North Norfolk
There was a KWS study 5 years ago that showed that biogas from AD was 5 times better carbon-wise than biodiesel or bioethanol. PV can collect far more energy per acre than AD from crop, so if we are looking at carbon saving energy then PV and storage is the way to go.
speaker or facilitator can’t be expected to work for nothing, if they have value to offer they should be paid imo. Sometime you don’t need a speaker IMO - as we see on this forum if you simply put farmers in the same space they talk and share ideas and experience, that’s very valuable
Discussion groups work well but are expensive ways to reach a small room full vs online that reaches many thousands at much lower cost and is far more accessible for some who lack time to go to physical meetings
there is a place for both though I would suggest and I hope both are supported in the future, I’m sure they will be, it’s something I have asked defra about
- Location
- South Molton
You fail to grasp the point.
You need a facilitator, we had funding to use Nick Bell from Bristol vet school then used AHDB, we had paid for them already with levy.
The group needs to be small, you want everyone to have a chance to express their experiences.
Nothing is right or wrong , people do what they do because it works for them but maybe they could tweak it.
We did with Defra funding through Cornwall college.
Defra are well aware of this approach back in late 2000's when we started on the Danish Stable School approach.
We never had any speakers, its not what that type of group is about, its about peer to peer learning.
Probably abit controversial but are you expecting farmers who have succeeded in implementing a system, through big financial risk and countless hours of research and reading to then tell others who Haven't bothered how to do it for free?