Blackmailed by my local doctor's surgery

Location
southwest
But is your GP the even best person to give an opinion on your mental health?

A 340+ page thread on TFF suggests that GP's are struggling to deal with mental health issues.

In fact, I might even suggest that in the future, people will be required to undergo a full mental health assessment (at their own expense) when they apply for a firearms certificate.

If you think that's ridiculous, I can remember when just having a car licence entitled you to drive any size of commercial vehicle. No test and no medical needed!
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
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Someone sucidal or with physcopahy doesnt need a gun to do harm,
But is your GP the even best person to give an opinion on your mental health?

A 340+ page thread on TFF suggests that GP's are struggling to deal with mental health issues.

In fact, I might even suggest that in the future, people will be required to undergo a full mental health assessment (at their own expense) when they apply for a firearms certificate.

If you think that's ridiculous, I can remember when just having a car licence entitled you to drive any size of commercial vehicle. No test and no medical needed!
And as such requirements continue to creep in we can expect that eventually we will get to the point when you need a similar assessment to buy an chainsaw, an axe, a kitchen knife or a ball point pen..
 

Hindsight

Member
Location
Lincolnshire
But is your GP the even best person to give an opinion on your mental health?

A 340+ page thread on TFF suggests that GP's are struggling to deal with mental health issues.

In fact, I might even suggest that in the future, people will be required to undergo a full mental health assessment (at their own expense) when they apply for a firearms certificate.

If you think that's ridiculous, I can remember when just having a car licence entitled you to drive any size of commercial vehicle. No test and no medical needed!

This I think may well be what happens. A friends wife was refused a renewal of shotgun licence recently as she has had a course of anti depressants. Did not affect the previous renewals but under the new regime it has as doctor had to declare all such prescriptions - no option to use any judgement. Now in Lincolnshire the medical judgement appears to be made by a police officer.

As I said in an earlier post a couple of weeks ago, when my renewal from Lincolnshire Police arrived, with these new requirements to satisfy before grant of a licence the plan, I feel, is to make possessing a shotgun just that little bit more onerous and expensive such that folk like me who use one an odd day in the year for really a social occasion give it up. Then the numbers in circulation will decline - and Plod can report back gun ownership has declined by so many percentage (and say aren't we good PLOD for making Lincolnshire safer) although many / most / all affected will be upstanding law abiding citizens. Goodness I sound like a Daily Mail or Telegraph reader!

Well I have paid my £30 and so this week better check to see if GP has uploaded letter to Police website so I can then press on with the renewal.

Hey ho.
 
Location
southwest
Someone sucidal or with physcopahy doesnt need a gun to do harm,

And as such requirements continue to creep in we can expect that eventually we will get to the point when you need a similar assessment to buy an chainsaw, an axe, a kitchen knife or a ball point pen..
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You'd already have trouble buying a kitchen knife if you're under 25 and live in some big Cities.
 
Location
southwest
just got my renewal through and the police state I must have a form downloaded and then filled in by my gp so my gp refuses to do this should be interesting

GP is entitled to refuse to do so. He/she is a doctor, not a form filler for your convenience. No different from you refusing to let someone walk their dog in your field

Perhaps they have a moral objection to firearms or hunting. May even have a reason we don't know about that makes them think you are unsuitable to have a firearm
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
GP is entitled to refuse to do so. He/she is a doctor, not a form filler for your convenience. No different from you refusing to let someone walk their dog in your field

Perhaps they have a moral objection to firearms or hunting. May even have a reason we don't know about that makes them think you are unsuitable to have a firearm
you really are a dick
 

Pan mixer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Colchester
I had to declare prostate cancer on my last year's application. I got the licence through but the police phoned to ask me how the cancer was going.

I told him that following operation the specialist thinks that it is all gone. He replied that he was happy to hear that. I wonder what would have happened if I had said anythng else?

Obviously firearms officers are medically trained......
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
I had to declare prostate cancer on my last year's application. I got the licence through but the police phoned to ask me how the cancer was going.

I told him that following operation the specialist thinks that it is all gone. He replied that he was happy to hear that. I wonder what would have happened if I had said anythng else?

Obviously firearms officers are medically trained......

It is reassuring that some are human...or can appear so.
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
Just had an interesting chat with local firearms team. My licence is a fairly standard 'any legal quarry' open type, and is apparently the default for what they issue these days. I'd asked about its use to protect my livestock and also as a means of humane dispatch, and on both cases it was indicated that additional clauses could be added to cover these, but they weren't there at the moment. It may be worth any livestock farmers having a check and a chat to confirm that they have a licence to cover all their needs.
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
Just had an interesting chat with local firearms team. My licence is a fairly standard 'any legal quarry' open type, and is apparently the default for what they issue these days. I'd asked about its use to protect my livestock and also as a means of humane dispatch, and on both cases it was indicated that additional clauses could be added to cover these, but they weren't there at the moment. It may be worth any livestock farmers having a check and a chat to confirm that they have a licence to cover all their needs.
:scratchhead: My shotgun license has no mention of any clauses, it just lists my weapons?



Medical form dropped in at the GP's yesterday... fingers crossed... Now, if you return your renewal with completed medical form more than 8 weeks prior to certificate expiry you get an automated 8 week extension... So plod then has 16 weeks to do their thing.... yet the timing of the renewal notification means I have just 2 weeks to squeeze a completed form out of the Dr's if I am to make the pre-8 week deadline :banghead::banghead:

I know someone else with the same GP who is already now having to make enquires into who has cabinet space in which he can lodge his guns when his cert expires!

My advice to all, don't wait for your renewal letter, submit the request to your GP at least 12 weeks before your certificate expires maybe more!
 

farmerm

Member
Location
Shropshire
You'd already have trouble buying a kitchen knife if you're under 25 and live in some big Cities.
Being under 25 is no problem at all, there is a little thing called internet shopping!
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Jsmith2211

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Somerset
When i applied for my shotgun cert it took 6 months for it to arrive. paid the GPs the moment i got the letter etc etc. I should have applied for a double shotgun and firearms at the time, but i didnt so now im going to have to go through the whole cherade again just to get a firearms licence. its just an understaffed way of getting an extra tax off of people who own guns. when i asked the policeman why it was taking so long, he told me that there were a whole 7 of them on the local firearms licensing department. 7! No wander they took 6 months, think how many farmers, hunters, clay shooters etc are having to get theirs renewed or applied for, 7 people arent going to get through that quickly.
 

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