Things that would improve farm safety ?

Sid

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
The trailer was moving muck to a field heap. It still had silage sides on and I told the lad to only fill it 3/4 to the top,of the grain sides. He totally ignored this and filled it to the topmost of the silage sides. He was also told not to go off the stoned area of the field heap but he did. If he had rung me up I would not have let them attempt recovery as there was no way it was coming out. It ended up going on its side and we dug most of the muck out with the JCB. The lad had been a full time employee but had gone back to his Dads farm and was doing a few days casual while I was away. If he had still been fully employed still I would have sacked him.
What do you do if staff completely ignore your instructions and act like a Dick?
Show them the written assessment :banghead:

Trouble is the buck stops with the boss. Even though instructions were given
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Point about the spinner is I valid one I made a cutting pole when our new one was delivered as it’s a fair bit higher as you say no where to store it without putting a hole or two in a new machine that will rust straight away, so stored it on the front weight
We made a cutting pole from a length of tube and an old mower blade.
Just ask ourselves though, in how many other industries would you be expected to manufacture yourself an essential safety tool that is part and parcel of safe operation of a supplied machine?
 

Hard Graft

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
British Isles
A few things regarding machinery design:

Make it possible to grease PTO shafts without having to soend half an hour raving the guard off with special tools. Fitting the nipple facing out on the tractor end would be start.

Jacking points on axles should be clearly defined and marked. Often they are non existent. I’d go as far as to say that self propelled sprayers etc ought to be supplied with fit for purpose jacking and blocking equipment for wheel changes, instead of leaving the farmer to improvise with dodgy old jacks and blocks of wood.

All implements should be supplied with either suitable legs or a stand to allow safe parking, hitching and unhitching. Neither my Bomford hedge cutter or Amazone spreader have any stands or legs at all meaning I must sit them on pallets which only increases the likelihood of then crushing me during hitching or unhitching.
All of the above are cost cutting by manufacturers but farmers.
Further more, it’s my view that fert spreaders should be provided with a storable long handled knife to cut bags from a safe distance. Such a tool and stowage is part of a safely designed system and lessen the likelihood of the operator reaching under with a pocket knife.
Seed drills should have similar bag handling equipment and also stowage on the machine chassis for PPE.
I could go on, but I’ll leave it at that.

Hayknife is what you want and whatwe use for opening fert bags
 

jonnieboy

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
Education is the key and changing the mindset
Not an easy task but it can work
Our company has a strict H&S policy
It soon becomes 2nd nature
Harness on in man basket less than £50 and a minute to put on
New pto guard less than £100 10 mins to fit
Actually sitting and writing a risk assessment does make you think about what you are doing and what could go wrong
I do preach at summer staff about safe stopping a machine before getting off
It does work if you can keep it up
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
3 foot bar with an old combine section welded on the end. I have had a hydraulic hose burst lifting a bag and if leaning under with a knife then at least an arm would have gone
 
The big bags I agree with, I’m in process of making a drill filler with an auger, two springs ago I was about to load a ton bag of spring wheat, brand new bag, and the side webbing on one side hoop went just as I got out of the JCB, I was 30 seconds away from heading up the steps and being underneath it! Trouble is, now they don’t want you to reuse them I think they have reduced the quantity, to save money of course, can’t win. And the top part of the hoop wasn’t damaged before anyone says, and I use a bag lifter, not tines.


Yes this was my argument about making bags re-usable.

The current quality is appalling. I've had bags split after being moved a few times and then decide just not worth the risk getting near them.

Far better the bags were a lot stronger or had some safety net around them - or indeed something completely different.
 

Goweresque

Member
Location
North Wilts
Im nearly 60, but still play football once a week with guys into their 70s who are fitter than many younger lads who look like they never shift their arses off the tractor seat, apart to fill up with fast food.

I'm sure thats all true, but the stats don't lie. Year after year the majority of farm fatalities are the over 60s. We can all do our best 'Well I'm as fit as a fiddle me!' acts as much as we like, it won't change the reality that age is a massive factor in why farming has such a high accident rate. Its not (by and large) students racing around in Fendts with 27 beacons flashing that are dying, its 60 and 70 somethings doing things they should have had enough self awareness of their own ageing process to stop doing years ago.
 

Salopian_Will

Member
BASE UK Member
Location
Shropshire
I think they should probably ban bags where you don’t cut the bottom, this ensures no reuse ?

extra cost I know but how many times have we all see a bag loop fail ?

I have never seen one fail but I agree they're risky. Do we need to ban them? I think that is one risk that can be mitigated:
1. Knife on the end of a pole.
2. Bag lifter - not tines.
3. Related to (2) since getting a bag lifter can fill the drill from the side so no need to stand underneath.
 

itsalwaysme

Member
Location
Cheshire
Point about the spinner is I valid one I made a cutting pole when our new one was delivered as it’s a fair bit higher as you say no where to store it without putting a hole or two in a new machine that will rust straight away, so stored it on the front weight
Why couldn't something be built into the top of the spinner to cut the bag as it's lowered, with all the technology and expense it's crazy that someone has to reach under and cut the bag (or make up some sort of tool)
 

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