Restricions on calves?

Rossymons

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Location
Cornwall
My long calving index is really going to come into its own soon then.

Less calvings less calves.

:cool:

There are some farms that I know of that could manage extended calving intervals as they're producing that much at peak they're often drying cows off at 30l plus. But they would only be a drop in the ocean compared to the rest of producer field.
 

DairyGrazing

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Mixed Farmer
Location
North West
There are some farms that I know of that could manage extended calving intervals as they're producing that much at peak they're often drying cows off at 30l plus. But they would only be a drop in the ocean compared to the rest of producer field.

Group 13 (everything calved more than 365 days) averages 30l in the winter and mid 20s in the summer.
 

bar718

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Although many do get it some still do not get the reasoning behind this whole thread. Having spent part time in London it was common to see the animal rights posters using the humanised language of mummy and baby and how the baby boys were shot at birth. As an industry we need to show that this doesn’t happen nowadays if we are to fight back at these anti dairy groups and that is the whole reasoning behind this without exception unfortunately. We also have to bear in mind that it is through our business decisions that these calves are born in the first place and to argue that they should be allowed to go to a slaughter house at birth would only give the anti dairy campaigners some more ammunition to use against us.
If we want to stop the next generation turning away from dairy to plant based drinks then sooner or later this topic has to be dealt with.
 
We shot more than most being a jersey herd and being tb restricted for a decade. I found it embarrassing when I explained it to people which is why we had already largely moved away from it before Arla made us. I never had a moral issue with it though. Lots of our beef crosses would have gone straight to slaughter and gone on to be enjoyed as a Friday night kebab and all our jersey bulls were shot on farm and went as zoo food providing entertainment for 10s of thousands who visited the zoo.
 
As a fresh faced youth my girlfriend and I bought and hatched some eggs off ebay. We are now old and haggered and married with children so these two welsummers are 10+

90% of the public are happy to eat a sub 40 day chicken when they have the potential to live as long as cows.
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Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
I ran a small veal enterprise for a small time.

People were horrified about eating 10 month old, well reared and delicious tasting met but didn't care about the age of chicken, pork or misconception about eating lamb in the spring time.

Wiener schnitzel is absolutely delicious.
 
Location
East Mids
Although many do get it some still do not get the reasoning behind this whole thread. Having spent part time in London it was common to see the animal rights posters using the humanised language of mummy and baby and how the baby boys were shot at birth. As an industry we need to show that this doesn’t happen nowadays if we are to fight back at these anti dairy groups and that is the whole reasoning behind this without exception unfortunately. We also have to bear in mind that it is through our business decisions that these calves are born in the first place and to argue that they should be allowed to go to a slaughter house at birth would only give the anti dairy campaigners some more ammunition to use against us.
If we want to stop the next generation turning away from dairy to plant based drinks then sooner or later this topic has to be dealt with.
This is why we started using sexed semen 21 years ago when Cogent first made it commercially available. Laughed at by a lot but never a moment's regret.
 
Location
East Mids
I have a friend who has pedigree Jerseys and Guernseys. I feel sorry for her as she says the latter is such a small gene pool anyway that using sexed semen restricts their breeding too much, as obviously not all bulls are suitable for sexing, so they will still be using a fair amount of conventional semen. They supply Arla too.
 

Sandpit Farm

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Derbyshire
Is anyone here successfully marketing their own Jersey/Guernsey-based beef? Interested to know as I feel there may be opportunities to build the market if more people started selling direct (box schemes etc). Surely you could make some great joints, steaks and burgers out of one of those things?
 

sidjon

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Location
EXMOOR
Is anyone here successfully marketing their own Jersey/Guernsey-based beef? Interested to know as I feel there may be opportunities to build the market if more people started selling direct (box schemes etc). Surely you could make some great joints, steaks and burgers out of one of those things?


They use to do boxes Ruby reds a d clotted cream too over the years.
 

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