Prince Philip RIP

pgk

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Actually, the Queen still has significant political powers available - including the ability to effectively veto new laws by withholding Royal Assent. Where the Queen's greatest powers lay though is in the quiet diplomacy that goes on behind the scenes, the gentle advice and subtle methods of letting politicians know her views. Previous monarchs have been more vocal and forthright in expressing their views, whereas QEII has exercised her influence in a more dignified manner. As for sending folk to the tower - it's a jolly nice day out, except for all the tourists! Joking aside - even if the Queen had the power to imprison folk at will, to do so with an elected member of Parliament, let alone the prime minister, would be a gross abuse of power - the sort of abuses that parliament was introduced to prevent!
There is no realistic prospect of the monarch veto any new law, that went with Charles 1st.
 

TheTallGuy

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There is no realistic prospect of the monarch veto any new law, that went with Charles 1st.
Actually, the veto has been used since Charles lost the throne. Admittedly not in quite some time, but there's other powers that have been exercised within the reign of QEII. Including refusing consent to debate a bill, which has the effect of preventing a bill even reaching as far as needing Assent.
 
Despite not being a royalist, or a fan of the illusion that we call democracy, I got to watch the whole of the funeral of HRH the Duke of Edinburgh; my wife, a staunch royalist, wanted it on. I found the whole service to be very moving and in some parts quite emotional and thought provoking.

The more that I have read about Philip, the man, the more I am slowly coming to like him and his approach to service to the Queen and our country. Those, of course, who envied his wealth and trappings will not have noticed the man with a bruised and broken heart.
 
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It always gets me. Great tune, well played, and the footage of the slow march away from the camera with the music fading into the distance was very poignant.


I also was moved by that moment but disrespectfully asked my wife how many cats are in the bag that the piper kept squeezing. The look that I got reminded me of Perseus and his confrontation with the gorgon and I had no shining shield to defend me! :oops:

The closeup of the duke's carriage driving items and the faithful horses was also moving. I imagine that all the royal animals will notice Philips absence and what stories those creatures could tell; if only they could talk. ;)

I, surprisingly, am drawn to learn more about the man, his family history, and thinking. :)
 

Sid

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I also was moved by that moment but disrespectfully asked my wife how many cats are in the bag that the piper kept squeezing. The look that I got reminded me of Perseus and his confrontation with the gorgon and I had no shining shield to defend me! :oops:

The closeup of the duke's carriage driving items and the faithful horses was also moving. I imagine that all the royal animals will notice Philips absence and what stories those creatures could tell; if only they could talk. ;)

I, surprisingly, am drawn to learn more about the man, his family history, and thinking. :)
I've said a eulogy should be published 10 years before someone passes away.
Many people's lives are very interesting if only you knew what questions to ask!
 
I've said a eulogy should be published 10 years before someone passes away.
Many people's lives are very interesting if only you knew what questions to ask!

I have known and also worked alongside ex-servicemen, who served in WWII and did gently enquire about their service and their time spent as POWs but to this day lament not having befriended them more and thanked them for their service.

A gentle and very quiet man, who lodged with the family who lived next door but one, served as a rear gunner in Lancasters but only at his funeral did we find out.

A friend, a pensioner, who served with the British Expeditionary forces in France was taken prisoner at Dunkirk and spent the duration of the war in a prison camp in Poland, escaped and surrenders to the advancing Russians and was repatriated to rejoin his regiment. I was learning quite a lot from my friend George but alas he was knocked off his bike and killed by a hit and run driver here in town.

I wonder what happened to the Duke's sisters and brothers in law?
 

Bald Rick

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Not a monarchist but this image is inevitably sad ...

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Crofter64

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At 5pm GMT Canada had its own memorial service for the Duke of Edinburgh. It took place in the Anglican Catherdral in Ottawa. There were 7 people participating- the priest, Bishop, 2 choir , an altar server, and two servicemen. The others were video streamed from elsewhere as there is a lockdown in Ontario. It was a beautiful memorial- an Algonquin Elder spoke, our P.M. , the former Governor General, the chaplain general of the armed forces who spoke a prayer from Notre Dame du Bon Secours ( our Lady of Good Rescue) , the sailor’s church in the port of Old Montreal as well as some students at Applebby College who are working on their DoE awards playing Amazing Grace. This is the most beautiful rendition I have ever heard ( it starts off a bit slowly).
 
What was so special about the Land Rover? The media made a lot about how he helped design it. A couple of times I even heard in the media that it was electrically powered, it clearly wasn't because you could hear the diesel engine running. It looks like a TD5 lwb with a single cab pickup body and just an extra platform on the back for the coffin.

This is not a criticism of the event, which I thought was magnificent.
 
As I understand it, the Duke of Edinburgh has done a great deal to steer the monarchy through very troubling and challenging times but his last project of orchestrating his own funeral has done the Royal Family one of his greatest services and one can only hope that they don't squander the good will that HRH the Duke of Edinburgh has just gained for them.
 

renewablejohn

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lancs
What was so special about the Land Rover? The media made a lot about how he helped design it. A couple of times I even heard in the media that it was electrically powered, it clearly wasn't because you could hear the diesel engine running. It looks like a TD5 lwb with a single cab pickup body and just an extra platform on the back for the coffin.

This is not a criticism of the event, which I thought was magnificent.
If you notice the coffin was automatically loaded and unloaded on the land rover I presume by powered rollers with direction rollers holding it square and only one peg at the back to stop the coffin falling off. I thought that was a bit redundant as it seemed downhill all the way.
 

Pilatus

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This thread has mainly been a great tribute to the Duke of Edinburgh.
This thread also tells us a tremendous amount members attitudes to life and society in general. Quite alarming to me but as they say it takes all sorts to make a world, so jealousy of privilege , and those who are against pomp and ceremony and monarchy will be around for a long time , but how their minds work I fail to understand.The bitterness that exists in a few peoples brains is quite disturbing.
But all to their own :rolleyes:
 
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Ashtree

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This thread has mainly been a great tribute to the Duke of Edinburgh.
This thread also tells us a tremendous amount members attitudes to life and society in general. Quite alarming to me but as they say it takes all sorts to make a world, so jealousy of privilege , and those who are against pomp and ceremony and monarchy will be around for a long time , but how their minds work I fail to understand.The bitterness that exists in a few peoples brains is quite disturbing.
But all to their own :rolleyes:

God forbid that some folks would have an different opinion. Entirely unacceptable....
 

Humble Village Farmer

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Think of this thread more like a book of condolence, would you write something nasty in such circumstances?
Not aware that I have written anything nasty on here. Perhaps you can correct me on that. My above comments were either made about me or other members not adequately fawning over the royal family.
 

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