Hilly
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Which ones ?5 or 6 coming up for sale in the Borders , in the next few months
Which ones ?5 or 6 coming up for sale in the Borders , in the next few months
are you saying more farmers sons want to come home nowadays? first ive heard of that, surely people borrowing on cheap interest rates just now will be locking in at these rates for the loan duration?My dharma here was bought a piece at a time. It’s somewhat fragmented but all with in five miles. Each block is big enough to make the travel worthwhile. I’ve paid anywhere frim 800$ and acre to 1350$ an acre. Most was bought between 2000 and 2010. Only 240 acres was bought recently and that required serious amount of time changing it from the early stages of being turned into a golf coarse. Filled it three lakes and flattened numerous landscaping features. Still cheap land imo. Land here is now a very hot commodity. In the past ten years it’s gone from 1500 an acre to 12000 was the last I heard and not much to be had. Dairy farms and pigs have driven a big chunk of that with manure application restrictions. Believe it or not milking cows is the number one money maker here. Pigs are a roller coaster but generally good. In the 90s there we so many farms forsale here. Primarily I think because the 80s were a tough ride with interest rates so high lots of farms crashed and those that survived had no successor willing to take over after seeing the parents struggling. For the past twenty years it’s been a different story on the whole with a new generation of educated young wannabe farmers that see debt as a bragging right. Once the cycle of cheap money passes it’s going to be hard on them. History repeats itself.
Farming is now a more attractive to the next generation due to COVID 19.are you saying more farmers sons want to come home nowadays? first ive heard of that, surely people borrowing on cheap interest rates just now will be locking in at these rates for the loan duration?
Are you new here?What‘s not to like!
Any links?I moved to France 20 years ago. I would say everything you said about Canada would be true about here too.
Replying to the original post it seems that there is more land round here for sale than not at the moment.
TFF is obviously suffering from a severe shortage of moaning related content, let's step it up peopleAre you new here?
Can you not read?
Stick around, read some of the topics, you’ll soon find there’s plenty we don’t like.
A tenants paradiseIn the neighbouring village to mine a local farmer's widow had to take a tenant on her land to court because he hadn't paid his rent for years.
Once she was rid of him I bought the 13 hectares of land off of her. We signed the paperwork and I organized a loan.
He went to the SAFER and said that he was in financial difficulties and the loss of this land would push him under.
This made him a priority for the SAFER but because he had no money they advertised for a private investor to replace me.
Someone from 150 miles away bought it for the price I agreed (plus paid on top commission to the SAFER) and signed a tenancy with the old tenant.
I believe the tenant hasn't paid the rent since and the investor wants to sell with a sitting tenant.
The irony is because the investor bought less than ten years ago he has to pay commission again to the SAFER because they have an exclusive right to sell written into their agreements.
I find that quite sad to be honest.
I can never make my mind up whether its the parents that are too controlling of their kids or the kids deciding it's much easier to stay at home than crack on by themselves so they blame controlling parents if anyone asks.
Not having a dig at you, I've just seen it a lot and find it interesting.
If you really want to do something you should just go for it.
Some kids get thrust into management at home from an early age and then cant escapeIts almost a “right of passage” here that kids go away for a few years or longer, before coming back to the farm. That’s normal . . .
Never leaving home is not normal. How else do you open your mind & get new ideas ?
Some kids get thrust into management at home from an early age and then cant escape
Due to parents death, illness or having other jobs
Me to a extent , expect I don’t want to escape, was running the place 99% at 17.Some kids get thrust into management at home from an early age and then cant escape
Due to parents death, illness or having other jobs
Of coursemy father developed Alzheimers while i was still at school
i organised someone to lease our place ( thus ensuring a fixed income for my mother ) while i fu#cked off for 5 years, working elsewhere, travelling & working my way around Australia & spending a few years living in the UK. Best thing ive ever done . . . ( apart from the time in the UK )
time away from home is the best life experience & education you'll get
Of course
But dropping in and out is not so easy here.
And going abroad for three years is not seen as the norm.
I did two winters down under, any longer and i would have lost my place in the pecking order
If you did that here you would be in danger of loosing the place .if i feel like retiring or just travelling around again & my children arent interested, then i'll just lease the place out to a neighbour again for a few years or longer
Of course
But dropping in and out is not so easy here.
And going abroad for three years is not seen as the norm.
I did two winters down under, any longer and i would have lost my place in the pecking order
From what I see it is here for a lot.time away from home IS seen as the norm here
its part of your education . . .
Don’t you farm 1200 acres already? I get you seem to be very ambitious and hard working but how much is enough?Housing moneys at large up here just now everyone on the edge of a town or citys getting stuff away now, local planners are refusing the applications but its nearly always overturned on appeal now with SNP pushing it through to get their fees, your standard working farmer without housing money cant buy ground now its housing money v housing money loads of farmers with 5, 10 Mill in the bank looking for land before the 3 years is up
Its not quite that organized here. Most land is sold privately, its sometimes hard to find out what's actually for sale. There are no full page ads in the paper or 6 foot signs in fields.Any links?
just over that but brother is partner too so more ground would be helpful long termDon’t you farm 1200 acres already? I get you seem to be very ambitious and hard working but how much is enough?
In the neighbouring village to mine a local farmer's widow had to take a tenant on her land to court because he hadn't paid his rent for years.
Once she was rid of him I bought the 13 hectares of land off of her. We signed the paperwork and I organized a loan.
He went to the SAFER and said that he was in financial difficulties and the loss of this land would push him under.
This made him a priority for the SAFER but because he had no money they advertised for a private investor to replace me.
Someone from 150 miles away bought it for the price I agreed (plus paid on top commission to the SAFER) and signed a tenancy with the old tenant.
I believe the tenant hasn't paid the rent since and the investor wants to sell with a sitting tenant.
The irony is because the investor bought less than ten years ago he has to pay commission again to the SAFER because they have an exclusive right to sell written into their agreements.