Farms for sale

Yale · Apr 19, 2021

Bossfarmer said:
just over that but brother is partner too so more ground would be helpful long term

So who is the boss?

nxy · Apr 19, 2021

steveR said:
I think I understand the concept, but what exactly is SAFER?

Difficult to explain in a sentence but they are a government agency that control the land market. They can replace any buyer in a deal with a more suitable candidate.
For example in theory young farmers and small farmers are prioritised over larger farmers. They also work in pretty much the same way as every other estate agent except they have much more power. They are funded by a percentage on the deals they make (or break) which tends to lead to some questionable tactics.

steveR · Apr 19, 2021

nxy said:
Difficult to explain in a sentence but they are a government agency that control the land market. They can replace any buyer in a deal with a more suitable candidate.
For example in theory young farmers and small farmers are prioritised over larger farmers. They also work in pretty much the same way as every other estate agent except they have much more power. They are funded by a percentage on the deals they make (or break) which tends to lead to some questionable tactics.

I must say, I did not realise that they had quite so much power....

Tarw Coch · Apr 19, 2021

nxy said:
This is an english agent who was at Seale Hayne with my sister and now lives locally

France Farms | Farms for sale in France

The qualified specialists in French agricultural valuations and transactions for those seeking a working farm or rural investment in France

www.france-foncier.fr

Having had a bit of a browse at that website , those French farms look seriously good value to prices here and in much of Northern Europe, I have to ask , what is the catch?
Why is Land so relatively cheap in France?

PuG · Apr 19, 2021

Because it has 4 time the land mass with equivalent population of the UK.

Here its about 1800 per Ha for pasture, but 25km down the road its 6000, but then its better arable land.

Sharpy · Apr 19, 2021

Flatlander said:
My dharma here was bought a piece at a time. It’s somewhat fragmented but all with in five miles. Each block is big enough to make the travel worthwhile. I’ve paid anywhere frim 800$ and acre to 1350$ an acre. Most was bought between 2000 and 2010. Only 240 acres was bought recently and that required serious amount of time changing it from the early stages of being turned into a golf coarse. Filled it three lakes and flattened numerous landscaping features. Still cheap land imo. Land here is now a very hot commodity. In the past ten years it’s gone from 1500 an acre to 12000 was the last I heard and not much to be had. Dairy farms and pigs have driven a big chunk of that with manure application restrictions. Believe it or not milking cows is the number one money maker here. Pigs are a roller coaster but generally good. In the 90s there we so many farms forsale here. Primarily I think because the 80s were a tough ride with interest rates so high lots of farms crashed and those that survived had no successor willing to take over after seeing the parents struggling. For the past twenty years it’s been a different story on the whole with a new generation of educated young wannabe farmers that see debt as a bragging right. Once the cycle of cheap money passes it’s going to be hard on them. History repeats itself.

Where are you?

DrWazzock · Apr 19, 2021

Tarw Coch said:
Having had a bit of a browse at that website , those French farms look seriously good value to prices here and in much of Northern Europe, I have to ask , what is the catch?
Why is Land so relatively cheap in France?

I’m no expert, but when I worked there anything south of Paris looked burnt to crisp most summers and that was a few years ago.

d williams · Apr 19, 2021

DrWazzock said:
I’m no expert, but when I worked there anything south of Paris looked burnt to crisp most summers and that was a few years ago.

A friend farms cattle in limousine says they feed more in the summer then in the winter

Bill the Bass · Apr 19, 2021

Bossfarmer said:
just over that but brother is partner too so more ground would be helpful long term

Buy him out, then you will have more.

lloyd · Apr 19, 2021

Bill the Bass said:
Buy him out, then you will have more.

He might be Bossfarmer's boss?

Bill the Bass · Apr 19, 2021

lloyd said:
He might be Bossfarmer's boss?

He says they are partners...

Anyways, its not really relevant to the thread.

deere 6600 · Apr 19, 2021

Bill the Bass said:
He says they are partners...

Anyways, its not really relevant to the thread.

Quite a few farmers in this area with no one following on are quite happy to keep single farm payment and rent out seasonally to local dairy farmers who need grass or beef and sleep farmers who canny count .permitted development now means steading knock down and 5 houses built plant the ground with trees then retire to town BPS going might change this

essexpete · Apr 19, 2021

steveR said:
I must say, I did not realise that they had quite so much power....

No I did not realise either.

glasshouse · Apr 19, 2021

steveR said:
I must say, I did not realise that they had quite so much power....

Thats whats needed here to stop all the city pri.cks buying everything

Hilly · Apr 19, 2021

glasshouse said:
Thats whats needed here to stop all the city pri.cks buying everything

Farmers sell to highest bidder , get over it.

steveR · Apr 19, 2021

Hilly said:
Farmers sell to highest bidder , get over it.

...except in France!

lloyd · Apr 19, 2021

steveR said:
...except in France!

What happens if Scotland goes independent?
Would new rules affect land values ?

AJ123 · Apr 19, 2021

stewart said:
We emigrated just over 20 years ago, looked at other countries but NZ was where we really wanted to be, never regretted the move once. We were back in the UK in January last year, took a couple of the kids back with us (they are in their 20s but still kids to us) On the way back home to NZ both of them thanked us for moving to NZ.

As in they didn’t like the feel of the UK?

stewart · Apr 19, 2021

AJ123 said:
As in they didn’t like the feel of the UK?

I suppose it could be, They did comment on how run down and untidy the UK looked, they could not understand why many of the houses in our old village were in need of minor repairs or at least a lick of paint and yet there would be a new Range Rover in the driveway, nothing wrong with the UK, plenty of Kiwis move there, really depends on the lifestyle you want.

Hilly · Apr 19, 2021

stewart said:
I suppose it could be, They did comment on how run down and untidy the UK looked, they could not understand why many of the houses in our old village were in need of minor repairs or at least a lick of paint and yet there would be a new Range Rover in the driveway, nothing wrong with the UK, plenty of Kiwis move there, really depends on the lifestyle you want.

To many people in the U.K. it’s well worn and dirty in lots of places .

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