Single Market / Customs Union - A Tragic Loss

Ncap · May 2, 2021

wanton dwarf said:
I guess that one went straight over your head then .. of course I didn't work for them. But I did get to know enough about them whilst I lived in their Culture.

As far as the snide comments are concerned .. more demonstration of your character or the lack of it.

If you buy a house in Belgium you have to pay VAT on the house. Which is only redeemed after 5 years. So that means most people are tied in to that culture even in the event the loss of a job, death or failed marriage. Totally not practical and I would call that a nightmare.

But you keep dreaming in the playground.

I'll be charitable and give this one more chance. Perhaps you are wearing the wrong spectacles and misread. Who knows?

I have written nothing, nor claimed anything, about buying houses in Belgium etc. It seems totally irrelevant to me in this discussion.

You suggested YOU had experience of all 27 countries. I countered by listing my knowledge and experience of many of those countries and ability in those languages and mentioned as an aside my work for a while (freelance, actually, and based from home in England) working with the European Parliament.

I asked (politely at first) what that ACTUAL experience of yours was of 27 countries in the EU. (Or as you put it, 'lived in their Culture')

czechmate · May 2, 2021

bobk said:
Tim Henman lives in Oxfordshire .

Not according to tim Herman; but yea I was talking of an interview some years back

maybe he moved back. I always thought retiring as a tax exile to Monaco in your thirties sounds as boring as

bobk · May 2, 2021

czechmate said:
Not according to tim Herman; but yea I was talking of an interview some years back

maybe he moved back. I always thought retiring as a tax exile to Monaco in your thirties sounds as boring as

Suppose it depends on how much tax you're paying , Timmy's earning have dropped substantially I suspect

czechmate · May 2, 2021

bobk said:
Suppose it depends on how much tax you're paying , Timmy's earning have dropped substantially I suspect

Yes, but he was only an example

come to think of it now, I remember you popping down there

bobk · May 2, 2021

czechmate said:
Yes, but he was only an example

come to think of it now, I remember you popping down there

I did , not overly keen on the place ,

Highland Mule · May 2, 2021

Ncap said:
I'll be charitable and give this one more chance. Perhaps you are wearing the wrong spectacles and misread. Who knows?

I have written nothing, nor claimed anything, about buying houses in Belgium etc. It seems totally irrelevant to me in this discussion.

You suggested YOU had experience of all 27 countries. I countered by listing my knowledge and experience of many of those countries and ability in those languages and mentioned as an aside my work for a while (freelance, actually, and based from home in England) working with the European Parliament.

I asked (politely at first) what that ACTUAL experience of yours was of 27 countries in the EU. (Or as you put it, 'lived in their Culture')

If I could interrupt what is from the outside a tedious and pointless argument between you two, could I ask a question that should be fairly simple to answer with a yes or a no?

In the past I have done consultancy work for multinational companies (U.K. domiciled) that involved working in other EU countries for short periods (weeks). If the opportunity comes again, will I need any special paperwork/ visa etc to do so, bearing in mind the client will be paying my company in the U.K.? Please don’t suggest just telling passport control/ customs I’m heading on holiday as client always needs everything to be 100% correct and clear.

Ncap · May 2, 2021

Highland Mule said:
If I could interrupt what is from the outside a tedious and pointless argument between you two, could I ask a question that should be fairly simple to answer with a yes or a no?

In the past I have done consultancy work for multinational companies (U.K. domiciled) that involved working in other EU countries for short periods (weeks). If the opportunity comes again, will I need any special paperwork/ visa etc to do so, bearing in mind the client will be paying my company in the U.K.? Please don’t suggest just telling passport control/ customs I’m heading on holiday as client always needs everything to be 100% correct and clear.

I totally agree with you. And apologize to you and others for my stubbornness but I just did not want the dwarf to get away with... anyway, whatever.
My answer to you is that I don’t know and accessing any useful info from gov.uk is like getting blood from a stone.
For precisely that reason we are preparing to move to the EU if not by the end of the year then Certainly within 12 months
Good luck wIth getting and answer though

Muck Spreader · May 2, 2021

Highland Mule said:
If I could interrupt what is from the outside a tedious and pointless argument between you two, could I ask a question that should be fairly simple to answer with a yes or a no?

In the past I have done consultancy work for multinational companies (U.K. domiciled) that involved working in other EU countries for short periods (weeks). If the opportunity comes again, will I need any special paperwork/ visa etc to do so, bearing in mind the client will be paying my company in the U.K.? Please don’t suggest just telling passport control/ customs I’m heading on holiday as client always needs everything to be 100% correct and clear.

It seems depend on what type of consultancy work, but short durations are apparently still OK in some EU countries without a work permit/visa, but its dependent on individual countries not the EU27. If the work relates to professional competences are your qualifications still valid for the relevant indemnities and if they are paying a fee or a salary for the work involved has tax implications. I bet there are more relating to individual countries or professions as well. :scratchhead:

Ashtree · May 2, 2021

Muck Spreader said:
It seems depend on what type of consultancy work, but short durations are apparently still OK in some EU countries without a work permit/visa, but its dependent on individual countries not the EU27. If the work relates to professional competences are your qualifications still valid for the relevant indemnities and if they are paying a fee or a salary for the work involved has tax implications. I bet there are more relating to individual countries or professions as well.

But, but, but, according to the Brexit Book of “Truths”, individual countries in the EU, have no competence or freedom to make decisions.

BrianV · May 2, 2021

Ashtree said:
But, but, but, according to the Brexit Book of “Truths”, individual countries in the EU, have no competence or freedom to make decisions.

It would seem a large part of the problem is the UK always seems to want to play the good guy & does not reciprocate the stupid rules & obstacles the EU & individual EU countries impose & they damm well know that.
Until Boris grows a pair & starts playing the game to their so called rules we are on a hiding to nothing & will always come off second best!

Highland Mule · May 2, 2021

BrianV said:
It would seem a large part of the problem is the UK always seems to want to play the good guy & does not reciprocate the stupid rules & obstacles the EU & individual EU countries impose & they damm well know that.
Until Boris grows a pair & starts playing the game to their so called rules we are on a hiding to nothing & will always come off second best!

What, like the ice pack for fish “rules” that he made up? I’d say that the problem was the U.K. had a habit of inventing rules and blaming them on the EU, when they were obviously nothing of the sort.

Courier · May 2, 2021

BrianV said:
It would seem a large part of the problem is the UK always seems to want to play the good guy & does not reciprocate the stupid rules & obstacles the EU & individual EU countries impose & they damm well know that.
Until Boris grows a pair & starts playing the game to their so called rules we are on a hiding to nothing & will always come off second best!

Do not forget that you are referring to rules which we had agreed to abide by and were involved in formulating and approving whilst we were a member.

There really could be no surprises for any negotiators who are worthy of the name and had done their homework.

Hindsight · May 2, 2021

BrianV said:
It would seem a large part of the problem is the UK always seems to want to play the good guy & does not reciprocate the stupid rules & obstacles the EU & individual EU countries impose & they damm well know that.
Until Boris grows a pair & starts playing the game to their so called rules we are on a hiding to nothing & will always come off second best!

Out of interest what is it like wearing a suit made of UKIP flags? Genuine question.

Ashtree · May 2, 2021

Hindsight said:
Out of interest what is it like wearing a suit made of UKIP flags? Genuine question.

“Sovereign”!

Ncap · May 2, 2021

BrianV said:
It would seem a large part of the problem is the UK always seems to want to play the good guy & does not reciprocate the stupid rules & obstacles the EU & individual EU countries impose & they damm well know that.
Until Boris grows a pair & starts playing the game to their so called rules we are on a hiding to nothing & will always come off second best!

Now I KNOW which news sources you read

Hindsight · May 2, 2021

Ashtree said:
“Sovereign”!

But quite, Sovereign indeed. We took back control. But then so di 27 European countries. Maybe that point missed the UKIP crew. Hey ho.

czechmate · May 2, 2021

Hindsight said:
But quite, Sovereign indeed. We took back control. But then so di 27 European countries. Maybe that point missed the UKIP crew. Hey ho.

But, Brits are special. You know, there are even songs such as “Rule Britannia” to remind you, just how special you are

BrianV · May 2, 2021

Courier said:
Do not forget that you are referring to rules which we had agreed to abide by and were involved in formulating and approving whilst we were a member.

There really could be no surprises for any negotiators who are worthy of the name and had done their homework.

There are no surprises just the fact that these rules are only being implemented one way so there is no incentive for the EU to apply a little common sense

BrianV · May 2, 2021

Ncap said:
Now I KNOW which news sources you read

Which are?

arcobob · May 2, 2021

czechmate said:
But, Brits are special. You know, there are even songs such as “Rule Britannia” to remind you, just how special you are

Do you know the words of The Marseillaise or Deutschland Uber Alles? You plastic frogs do post some rubbish at times.

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